5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

Playing in a 5/10 game 8 people seated at 10 person table.

I am UTG with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I limp. UTG + 1 raises. Fold. Fold SB Fold. BB call. I call.

Flop is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB checks. I check. Villain Raises. BB FOlds. I raise. Villian calls.

Turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

I bet. He raises.

AND FOR SOME REASON I CALL. I HAVE VISIONS OF STRAIGHTS DANCING IN MY HEAD! With a preflop raise? How is that possible that I am thinking this? I know. I suck.

River is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

He bets. I CALL.

I suck...This is clearly a huge mistake correct? No way I should fear a straight or AA? Ugh...

This "fear" is probably keeping me from big profits I suppose. There was no logical explanation that he would have a straight. He had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I would have made a lot more money.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

You said it best:

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No way I should fear a straight or AA? Ugh...

This "fear" is probably keeping me from big profits I suppose.

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You can't achive a high win rate by always putting your opponents on the 1 hand that beats you. Grow a pair and reraise him somewhere.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

Not a huge mistake. with his raise pre-flop, then check post-flop, he could very easily been slow playing AA, or have another high pair, such as KK or QQ and fear the A flop. I feel your biggest mistake was not re-raising after the turn to try and define his hand. AA would have re-raised right back, another high pair probably would have folded, and a AK, AQ or AJ would have called, and you would have had a much easier time putting him on a hand

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

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Not a huge mistake. with his raise pre-flop, then check post-flop, he could very easily been slow playing AA, or have another high pair, such as KK or QQ and fear the A flop. I feel your biggest mistake was not re-raising after the turn to try and define his hand. AA would have re-raised right back, another high pair probably would have folded, and a AK, AQ or AJ would have called, and you would have had a much easier time putting him on a hand

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

Are you playing with a proper bankroll? Playing scared like this is usually a symptom of playing above a limit you are comfortable with.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?


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3betting the turn and folding to a cap would just be silly. The pot is too big to fold by then, and there are very few hands that villan will have which beats us.

Haupt_234

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

no, i am not properly bank rolled. 5/10 with 1k

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

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no, i am not properly bank rolled. 5/10 with 1k

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hahahahaha

really dumb to be playing 5/10 with just 1k

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

300x the big bet is the proper bankroll; @ 5/10 - $3000. This multiple ensures you are able to weather the volatility. $1K will go very quickly when you start running cold. Being underfunded leads to passive play, as was the case in this hand.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?


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3betting the turn and folding to a cap would just be silly. The pot is too big to fold by then, and there are very few hands that villan will have which beats us.

Haupt_234

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Okay, my standard play here is the call down, but I'm questioning it on further thought.

It's somewhat difficult given the fact that we have no reads, but tell me this: what hands raise PF then cap the turn?

53 isn't a raising hand, even for a maniac. 44 and 66 are also highly unlikely. Given a turn cap and PF raise, I'd put it at pretty long odds that we're up against an AA. Since it would be 2 bets to showdown, we're looking at 5:1 odds. Do you really think anything other than AA would be likely 1 in 6 times? I don't........

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?


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3betting the turn and folding to a cap would just be silly. The pot is too big to fold by then, and there are very few hands that villan will have which beats us.

Haupt_234

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Okay, my standard play here is the call down, but I'm questioning it on further thought.

It's somewhat difficult given the fact that we have no reads, but tell me this: what hands raise PF then cap the turn?

53 isn't a raising hand, even for a maniac. 44 and 66 are also highly unlikely. Given a turn cap and PF raise, I'd put it at pretty long odds that we're up against an AA. Since it would be 2 bets to showdown, we're looking at 5:1 odds. Do you really think anything other than AA would be likely 1 in 6 times? I don't........

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First a total maniac will raise with 53. Second why are we thinking about 44 since there is only one 4 still in the deck. [ QUOTE ]
Do you really think anything other than AA would be likely 1 in 6 times? I don't........

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Good luck with that.



EDIT: OP raise of fold PF unless you expect a lot of company.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

What doesn't matter is how smart or dumb it is to be playing with 1k at 5/10, what matter's is whether or not the OP is comfortable doing so, which he obviously isn't. If you continue to play scared and make the wrong decisions because you don't want to lose your money, you will probably just lose your money slowly. Either become less risk averse or find a different game as it seems like you know where you made your mistakes.

Re: 5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.
 

300 BB isn't enough for 5/10. After 3/6, you need at least 500BB is be properly rolled. if you're playing 300BB, you need to be very willing to move down if you're swinging bad.