Is medium stakes poker even beatable with a rake.
 

So far at the new rakefee site, wsex, i'm up 300 bucks and have saved 2090 dollars in rake fees. And i play at almost a semi pro level. So my conclusion that people are wasting their money if u have to pay rake to play medium stakes.

I think people should wake up and smell the coffee.. support wsex and have a chance at really winning for a change.

Do u think that medium stakes is even marginally beatable long term with a standard rake?

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If it's not spam, then it belongs in the "beginner's" forum or something.

Edit: yes, it's beatable.

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No.

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Do you even need to ask? Of course not.

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I have a friend who knows a friend who's up 150 dollars over the long term at NL200. But i don't know if that's true, i dont really believe people can win over the long haul also, the house always wins

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playing raked medium stakes is always =

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My sarcasm detector is going off, do I need to fix it?

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I'm a calling station and I go on tilt all the time, but I've beat "medium stakes poker" like a redheaded stepchild over 100,000 hands. Maybe this is just a lucky upswing.

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So far this month I have paid Party Poker almost $1300 in rake. I am up in arms about what to do, I will never see that money again!

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I think people should wake up and smell the coffee.. support wsex and have a chance at really winning for a change.

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We have awakened, but WPEX does not have NL short handed.

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Depends what your deffinition of standard rake is. At local casinos near me the standard rake for a $1-2 NL game is $6 per half hour, plus they take out $1 per pot for the bad beat jackpot. This game is not beatable. Even a winrate of 8PTBB/100 is not enough to break even after the dealer tips.

Now online games with lower rake, add in Rakeback and ocasional bonuses and yes it is very beatable. Add in multiple tables and you can make enough to live off of easy at the $200NL level.

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So far at the new rakefee site, wsex, i'm up 300 bucks and have saved 2090 dollars in rake fees. And i play at almost a semi pro level. So my conclusion that people are wasting their money if u have to pay rake to play medium stakes.

I think people should wake up and smell the coffee.. support wsex and have a chance at really winning for a change.

Do u think that medium stakes is even marginally beatable long term with a standard rake?

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wow you suck at poker

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today, i had a really bad session. i made a really donk call of an obvious overbet. it was one of my worst sessions (both mistake-wise and money-wise) since like a month ago. i was also pretty card dead. 90 minutes of 6 tabling, and only AA once, KK and QQ zero times.

i still won $400. holla.

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I had my first winning session this week. +500 ship it. If only I didn't have to pay rake...

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Those point "thingys" the poker sites give you to buy turtlenecks and stuff totally make up for the lost $$$ in rake. And you don't really "see" the rake your losing, so IMO I don't even consider it lost money.

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Wtf is rake, and why are people saying Party takes money from them?

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Wtf is rake, and why are people saying Party takes money from them?

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It is a figment of everyone's imagination.

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So far at the new rakefee site, wsex, i'm up 300 bucks and have saved 2090 dollars in rake fees. And i play at almost a semi pro level.

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The key word in the second senetence appears to be almost.

"ALMOST a semi pro level."

The connotation of almost varies from individual to individual, I'd assume.

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you suck at poker.

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So far at the new rakefee site, wsex, i'm up 300 bucks and have saved 2090 dollars in rake fees. And i play at almost a semi pro level. So my conclusion that people are wasting their money if u have to pay rake to play medium stakes.

I think people should wake up and smell the coffee.. support wsex and have a chance at really winning for a change.

Do u think that medium stakes is even marginally beatable long term with a standard rake?

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A lot of people are being sarcastic, but the regular winning players at 200NL/400NL (4PTBB-10PTBB) are paying 30%-50% of their winnings to the rake.

Anybody with a large PT can double check for themselves. A player winning 4PTBB is paying roughly 1.7-2PTBB on rake. A player winning 9PTBB is paying somewhere around 3PTBB on rake.

Throw in just a few bad beats more than usual in a month, and it really cuts down on your winrate.

I love the soft games, but it's a bite in the azz when up to 50% of your winnings are going to rake.

Even if you have RB, you are still looking at 25%-40% total rake.

And no, this is not an endorsement for WPEX. They have no NL6max, so as far as I'm concerned, they blow...

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what's rake?

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so ive been beating the "rake" this whole time???

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just because you can't beat the rake doesn't mean others can't either.

and don't tell party, but fwiw, i'd still play their if they increased their rake by 50%.

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just because you can't beat the rake doesn't mean others can't either.

and don't tell party, but fwiw, i'd still play their if they increased their rake by 50%.

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do you realize how much you pay a month in rake on party? another 50% would suck ass.

that being said, if you cant beat rake at msnl, move down.

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So far this month I have paid Party Poker almost $1300 in rake. I am up in arms about what to do, I will never see that money again!

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Its not really like you ever saw it in the first place, just pretend party is rake free.

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just because you can't beat the rake doesn't mean others can't either.

and don't tell party, but fwiw, i'd still play their if they increased their rake by 50%.

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do you realize how much you pay a month in rake on party? another 50% would suck ass.

that being said, if you cant beat rake at msnl, move down.

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well yeah i know from pt. and i agree itd suck, but if we're being honest, id still prob stay.