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Im not sure to understand how stickies work.. Let's say I have 500$ in sticky 2 in my account.(nothing else) I play one hand for 250$ and lose. Let's say I play another hand of 250$ and win it. Will I be able to withdraw 250?

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No, you can't make a withdrawal unless your balance is over the bonus amount.

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There are some casinos which deduct losses from the bonus (if you have no more regular balance). If you were playing one of these, then it would work like that.

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Yeah. On all of the major software providers, the sticky stays in your account until you cashout and the bonus is removed from your cashout or your balance reachs zero.

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Am I playing sticky's correctly:

Play much higher stakes than I normally would. For example, I have a $250 deposit and a $250 bonus. I play $100 a hand until I hit a "target", maybe $1000 or so (or is doubling your D+B unreasonable?). Then I finish the WR and cash out?

How do I determine my EV when I have a target?

Thanks guys!

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OP, signup at Casinobonuspages and complete 2 casinos through them. You can get access to the members only stuff that breaks down the differences between sticky type 1 and type 2 bonuses, and also strategies to use on each.

Yobz, that is a good way to play stickies. It leaves you the ability to split/double in BJ, which is what you need to minimize HA. Some people try to go all or nothing

I have been doing some of the Playtechs a bit differently lately though (especially since I always seem to lose the first hand and many of the table limits have been lowered to $100). I play $25 per hand and bet progressively. CBP has said, and I tend to agree, that their software is pretty streaky, so this strategy can work well. I add another $25 to my bet for each hand in a row I win. When I lose, I drop back to $25. If I hit a few good streaks, I drop back down to $5 or $10 a hand to grind out the rest of the WR. My targets are usually about 5 times my deposit (excluding any bonus they give), so doubling your D+B doesnt sound unreasonable.

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I'm very interested in the math behind this. My normal strategy with stickies is all in on one hand and then play out with flat betting if I win. I don't know the exact math, but I'd guess your average single hand of blackjack gives the player app. 47-48% chance of winning. Obviously, especially for sites with high wr, you're going to give back a bit of your winnings when finishing the wr, but I doubt you are mathematically a favorite to hit your target making bets that are 20% of your starting stack and trying to reach double your starting stack. You can't mathematically be greater than 47% to win here can you? My odds might be a bit off, and, like I said, I'd like to know the math here...I don't necessarily know it. I guess I'm just curious to see some real evidence one way or the other.
Thanks,
Dude

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Duderino,

You give quite a bit HA in BJ by not being able to double or split so all-in on 1 hand isn't considered the optimal strategy.

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Duderino,

You give quite a bit HA in BJ by not being able to double or split so all-in on 1 hand isn't considered the optimal strategy.

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By quite a bit the HA could be around 8x or more of the real HA.

It's almost better to throw it down on roulette all on black than bet it all on a BJ hand. Well if it wasn't banned.

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It sounds like Iggy and Thremp covered the reasons for not betting everything on one hand.

In my case, I had a really bad run of sticky losses by betting big hands right off the bat (I would usually bet 25% of my deposit). It might have been more of a psychological reason that I wanted to play more than 5 hands of BJ for my several hundered dollar deposits, but I started betting smaller (but still bigger than normal for me), but using a progressive system. I still bust stickies every once in a while, but my number of big wins has gone up significantly. I dont know if the software really is streaky or not, but a string of 6-8 wins in row happening a couple times on a deposit can easily lead to a nice cashout.

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8x HA would still give you a 47-48% chance in most cases...in some of the worst games out there it might be 45%. I still can't imagine the EV is better than that for some other betting system. Maybe it is, but I've never seen the actual math for it. Anyone have anything besides reassurances without proof (not trying to be a smartass at all, but that's what you guys gave me).