HU making small pair
 

I don't remember much about villain, but PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200. I'd appreciate comments on any street.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

I don't think I should fold to the resteal. PokerStove says my equity here is 27% against the top 14% of hands and there is a lot of money in the pot already.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Here it feels a lot like I am behind, but I think I very likely have 5 outs.

River: (9.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Call here because the pot is too big?

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I think the preflop steal is terrible to be honest.

The flop is also terrible. Just call down.

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The flop is also terrible. Just call down.

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You don't think one can steal with any 2 cards? I won so many blinds recently by stealing that I occationally steal with any 2.

Why is the flop horrible? Unless villain has an overpair I am the favorite here.

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ya, a good favorite. so let him keep betting his kqish hands.

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This hand looks like the poster-child for not trying to steal with 25o, except maybe with an excellent read that the blinds just won't defend.

Also, it's hard for me to imagine a player that won't defend their blinds if you've ever turned over two similar cards in a steal situation.

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PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200

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against this player, when he doesnt fold the turn I'm not putting anymore money in. in this particular case, that means folding the turn. even if he's semi-bluffing you, which he rarely is given his stats, he has so many outs that you are put in a losing situation if you are going to call the turn everytime (because he will mostly have a legitimate hand)

anyways, I fold PF as well, but change it to 56s or 45s and I really like your flop + turn play. I want the pot now since my hand is so vulnerable, and I dont want him thinking he can just bet into me.

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From wikiquote (edited by me):

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Garth: Hey [Amp], if you're gonna spew, spew into this. [Garth holds out an extremely small paper cup.]

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Don't steal with 52o if you're going to feel the need to keep pushing when played back at. Actually, just move the period to right after "52o" and delete the rest.

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I don't remember much about villain, but PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200. I'd appreciate comments on any street.


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I don't think stealing with any 2 against this type is that bad. He's tight and appears to fold too much pst flop.

I think you should fold when c/r'd on the turn. You are almost certainly drawing to 5 outs against this guy and need better than 8-1 to call.

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The flop is also terrible. Just call down.

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You don't think one can steal with any 2 cards? I won so many blinds recently by stealing that I occationally steal with any 2.

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against this villian, any 2 might work. however, you need to get stats on his blind defense, not just his general PF stats. if he does adjust to steals, you are throwing money at him by raising this trash in a raked environment.

any 2 against an unknown is a terrible steal frequency.

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PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200

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against this player, when he doesnt fold the turn I'm not putting anymore money in. in this particular case, that means folding the turn. even if he's semi-bluffing you, which he rarely is given his stats

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I don't understand this. Someone with a postflop aggression of 7.5 should be semi-bluffing a lot, no?

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I think you should fold when c/r'd on the turn. You are almost certainly drawing to 5 outs against this guy and need better than 8-1 to call.

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I got 8.2:1, and I think I would get at least one, possibly 2 more BB's on the river if I hit. That's why I called the turn c/r.

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PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200

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against this player, when he doesnt fold the turn I'm not putting anymore money in. in this particular case, that means folding the turn. even if he's semi-bluffing you, which he rarely is given his stats

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I don't understand this. Someone with a postflop aggression of 7.5 should be semi-bluffing a lot, no?

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after 200 hands, AF isn't always reliable to conclude he semi-bluffs alot. if you can't fold to the turn check-raise.. i think i'd prefer to a straight calldown from the flop.. (or a call-call-fold line).

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after 200 hands, AF isn't always reliable to conclude he semi-bluffs alot.

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I would take this a step further and say that a stat read by itself is insufficient to conclude that a Villan semi-bluffs a certain amount, after any number of hands. Especially a Villan this tight.

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PT sais he's 11/6/7.5/200

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I don't understand this. Someone with a postflop aggression of 7.5 should be semi-bluffing a lot, no?

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7.5 means he is betting/raising and/or FOLDING a lot more than he calls. Folding instead of calling increases your agression factor.

Still, when trying to steal the blinds, I often try to look up the specific stats on blind defense as given by PAHud.
I also am sometimes VERY aggressive in stealing, because of the rock garden that some Party tables are (don't know how this is on Stars).
I still think you shouldn't chase these hands too much postflop. Steal failed, tough, you're still a winner if they work &gt;40% of the time.

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You don't think one can steal with any 2 cards?

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No, because you haven't told us anything about SB's stats. BB is only half of the stealing equation.

I hate your postflop line. Either call down from the flop or call the flop/fold the turn UI. His preflop 3-bet is enough to make me back off.

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Grunch:

Take your free card on the turn.