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Auto value bet on river?
Limit .50/1 10 handed
First hand at the table Hero is BB [Kd,4s] UTG calls, 4 folds, CO+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, HERO checks. FLOP [QH,6D,KC ] All check to button, Button bets, Hero raises, all fold to button, Button calls. TURN [QH,6D,KC,2D ] Hero bets, Button calls RIVER [QH,6D,KC,2D,6C ] Hero checks, Button checks. On the flop, I check and plan to fold unless button bets, which happens here. So I raise, to shut the field, which happens also. I assume I lead, so I bet the turn, planning to fold to a raise, which doesn't happen. But what on the river? I thought inducing a bluff was my best option. Any comment on the hand as a whole, and on the river would be appreciated. |
Re: Auto value bet on river?
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On the flop, I check and plan to fold unless button bets, which happens here. [/ QUOTE ] Think this is too weak with top pair. U seem to be a bit cautious in ur thinking over all. Top pair is a pretty good hand. The river is unlikely to have helped ur opp. His most likely holdings are a K or a Q or a busted draw like JT. If he has a busted draw u should check, if he holds a Q u should bet. In case of a K it doesn't matter what u do. Since there are so few possible draws I like to bet here. Most players are too passive, meaning u have a much better chance of beeing called by a weaker hand than that he would bet a weaker hand. |
Re: Auto value bet on river?
I bet the river after the villian's call on the turn. Think you're ahead with top pair and would put the villian on Qx max.
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
I bet the river for value. We are good ~77% of the time if we put the villian on Kxs- KJs, K7o - KJo, Q8 - QJ, and JT.
Since the river is the 6c, this helps our hand tremendously. If we were outkicked prior streets we are most likely not now and we will split the pot with every other K hand except AK, KK, and K6. |
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You really think a Queen would call my check raise and call my turn bet?
Are these guys playing that bad? My thinking was that if had a K, we were to split, so there is no value in betting, except getting the rake bigger. If he had a busted draw, there was no value in betting either. Also, if he raises, I'm dead here. That's why I checked. Including Qx here in his range is somewhat new to me. Malmuth wrote I don't remeber where that top pair with a weak kicker is a dubious hand. That's part of the reason why I err on the cautious side. But thanks for your comment. |
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You really think a Queen would call my check raise and call my turn bet? Are these guys playing that bad? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't be suprised seeing AT or 88 calling here really. |
Re: Auto value bet on river?
with no read, i really think this player could hold a Q most of the time. Thus a river bet is good here.
if you have a read that the vill will only call down with a TP or better then i would check/call |
Re: Auto value bet on river?
I think you played the hand fine, except that you should bet this river. Top pair is a strong hand HU and villian will call you with what very well is aQ
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
With button calling the turn bet I think the best you can hope for is a split pot, unless you have some read that he bets MP if checked to on the flop. The river check is fine.
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
I bet this all day, it will make money in the long run.
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It's a bet/fold though. You can't call a raise there, can't you?
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
Yes I'd fold to a raise, unless he's capable of bluff raising the river which is about 0.01% of people at .5/1
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
I agree with everyone else that the river is an easy bet. In addition to Qx and straight draws I think you will see middle PP that will not fold a fair amount.
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Re: Auto value bet on river?
Grunch...
What are you so scared of? No one showed strength PF and when you got aggressive on the flop the button backed off. He could have anything and just bet his position. Now the call on the turn suggests to me that he has at least a pair or he picked up the diamond draw. But the river doesn't complete the flush and now you have 2 pair with a nice kicker. I would've bet out this river. Also you should refer to this post, it's a good example of this situation. |
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