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Old 04-05-2006, 07:00 AM
mshalen mshalen is offline
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Default Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

Raymer, Ferguson and Lederer lobby Congress. Link to article in Star-Ledger.

http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/...top&coll=1
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

Congress has no business going against the majority's will (74% in this case.) unless the majority supports the suppression of civil liberties.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:02 AM
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Congress has no business going against the majority's will (74% in this case.) unless the majority supports the suppression of civil liberties.

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I'd love to see the actual poll
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

Whoever picked the trio did a great job, I can't imagine three better representatives of poker for this purpose. All three are smart, well-spoken, and capable of presenting the poker-player's position in a way that will be received well.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

Wall Street Journal - discussion board poll-credible?

I think poster is talking about this one
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:39 PM
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No, no...the actual polling wording, questions and data itself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Zogby prolly won't give me free access though.

I would point out that depending on if the wording was as broad as "online recreational activity" - Picking up that kind of number isn't surprising and it shows how our side of the debate must frame online poker playing...as a recreational activity.

It also wouldnt surprise me if the poll asked specifically about online gambling or online poker, the results would be substantially different. Maybe not, but that's my gut.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:58 PM
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No, no...the actual polling wording, questions and data itself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Zogby prolly won't give me free access though.

I would point out that depending on if the wording was as broad as "online recreational activity" - Picking up that kind of number isn't surprising and it shows how our side of the debate must frame online poker playing...as a recreational activity.

It also wouldnt surprise me if the poll asked specifically about online gambling or online poker, the results would be substantially different. Maybe not, but that's my gut.

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Stu Rothenberg would be proud of your analysis. Yes, I too doubt that poll and would want to know several things before claiming it to be accurate. Was the poll test an "informed" test? In other words, did respondents answer questions about poker or receive other information prior to the question cited? Informed tests are notoriously inaccurate/misleading.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:58 PM
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Stu Rothenberg would be proud of your analysis.

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Expect nothing less [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

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No, no...the actual polling wording, questions and data itself [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Zogby prolly won't give me free access though.

I would point out that depending on if the wording was as broad as "online recreational activity" - Picking up that kind of number isn't surprising and it shows how our side of the debate must frame online poker playing...as a recreational activity.

It also wouldnt surprise me if the poll asked specifically about online gambling or online poker, the results would be substantially different. Maybe not, but that's my gut.

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You can at least find some of the info you are looking for here:

http://www.onlinegamblingmythsandfacts.com/polls.htm
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Old 04-05-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Mr. Raymer goes to Congress

Thx, missed it when I scanned the site the first time.

In addition, I had the opportunity to run into Greg, Howard, the PPA President and their lobbyist in the hall today. The two pro's looked a bit tired, hopefully not too turned off by their experience, but they were in good spirits.

The PPA President and their lobbyist were up beat and I am much more confident in their understanding and abilities now than I have been in the past. I remain hopeful that our community can rally behind opposition to harmful legislation and become more active in the future.
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