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#1
08-08-2007, 12:23 AM
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Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
I just doubled a few hands back vs. Erick when I had a bigger flush draw vs. his flush draw in a limped pot. I was on shortstack until then. Not much info on PFR, and I haven't seen Erick coldcalling that much.
Full Tilt Poker Game #3186407895: $55,000 Guarantee (24002603), Table 17 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:40:32 ET - 2007/08/07 dimathegrinder (Observer): ? Seat 1: TommyDukes (18,728) Seat 2: BKiCe (11,368) Seat 3: ginter (13,807) Seat 4: Whipsaw3 (30,075) Seat 5: Jimmy3times (8,826) Seat 6: UbsoLute (62,275) Seat 7: Erick Lindgren (53,096) Seat 8: HolezLikeSwiss (22,332) Seat 9: yoren8 (29,650) TommyDukes antes 125 BKiCe antes 125 ginter antes 125 Whipsaw3 antes 125 Jimmy3times antes 125 UbsoLute antes 125 Erick Lindgren antes 125 HolezLikeSwiss antes 125 yoren8 antes 125 ginter posts the small blind of 500 Whipsaw3 posts the big blind of 1,000 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to yoren8 [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] Jimmy3times folds UbsoLute has 15 seconds left to act UbsoLute raises to 2,500 Erick Lindgren calls 2,500 HolezLikeSwiss folds yoren8 ? I'll just start w/ preflop. 
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#3
08-08-2007, 01:00 AM
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Re: Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
i'm thinking about playing safe and calling
but squeezing is probably +ev i'll check the math... 125*9 + 1500 + 5000 = 7625 pot I’ve no idea how either play so maybe you wanna tinker the ranges but I’ll treat them both as solidish Ubsolute = 88+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+ 7.4% Erick = 66+,AJs+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AQo+ 9.2% of hands If ubsolute pushes with… TT+,AQs+,Ako 3.8% of hands (I’ll put it tightish because he should be scared about getting stacked by Erick because hes the only player at the table who can break him and he could be trapping) Erick will only call that with… QQ + 1.4% of hands (ak is only 44% vs that range) This happens 7% of time and your 20% equity ubsolute pushes Erick folds… this happens 44% of time and your 37% equity If ubsolute folds erik calls with… 99+,AQs+,Ako 4.2% of hands this happens 23% of time and your 39% equity if they both fold 26% of time. 100% equity TBC 7% U win 62k 20% U lose 30k 80% = 12k-24k = -12k 1C1F 44% u win 35k 37% u lose 30k 63% = 13k-19k = -6k 1C1F 23% u win 35k 39% u lose 30k 61% = 14k-18k = -4k TBF 26% U win 8k = 8k -0.84-3.78-0.92+2 = -3540 chips -ev with those ranges but who knows if those ranges are right lol pez
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#4
08-08-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
[ QUOTE ]
i'm thinking about playing safe and calling but squeezing is probably +ev i'll check the math... 125*9 + 1500 + 5000 = 7625 pot I’ve no idea how either play so maybe you wanna tinker the ranges but I’ll treat them both as solidish Ubsolute = 88+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+ 7.4% Erick = 66+,AJs+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AQo+ 9.2% of hands If ubsolute pushes with… TT+,AQs+,Ako 3.8% of hands (I’ll put it tightish because he should be scared about getting stacked by Erick because hes the only player at the table who can break him and he could be trapping) Erick will only call that with… QQ + 1.4% of hands (ak is only 44% vs that range) This happens 7% of time and your 20% equity ubsolute pushes Erick folds… this happens 44% of time and your 37% equity If ubsolute folds erik calls with… 99+,AQs+,Ako 4.2% of hands this happens 23% of time and your 39% equity if they both fold 26% of time. 100% equity TBC 7% U win 62k 20% U lose 30k 80% = 12k-24k = -12k 1C1F 44% u win 35k 37% u lose 30k 63% = 13k-19k = -6k 1C1F 23% u win 35k 39% u lose 30k 61% = 14k-18k = -4k TBF 26% U win 8k = 8k -0.84-3.78-0.92+2 = -3540 chips -ev with those ranges but who knows if those ranges are right lol pez [/ QUOTE ] I don't know if those ranges are right either or if those figures are useful considering how uncertain we are about both their ranges, but def appreciate the effort.
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#5
08-08-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
np, i often do these ranges things for myself when i'm not sure, its pretty crucial stuff to have down imo.
anyway calling ranges are slightly more important then raising ranges, and are probably closer to correct. pez
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#7
08-08-2007, 02:05 AM
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Re: Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
Yeah given stacks a call is the best play here I think. I don't see folding as an option and without a great read on the PFR I guess raising or pushing is tough to do with limited information.
Against a more active guy I think a raise to 11k and calling a shove would be best.
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#8
08-08-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: Fuper hand w/ Erick Lindgren
the math and ranges look more or less ok (I don't know how he plays, either) but you can usually eyeball it at the table pretty easily. just remember you're around 35% against a calling range, and you can figure the rest out in 5 seconds.
anyway, I call and hope one of the shorties pushes because that basically solves the rest of the hand for you really quickly either way.
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#10
08-08-2007, 02:33 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
I just doubled a few hands back vs. Erick when I had a bigger flush draw vs. his flush draw in a limped pot. I was on shortstack until then. Not much info on PFR, and I haven't seen Erick coldcalling that much. Full Tilt Poker Game #3186407895: $55,000 Guarantee (24002603), Table 17 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:40:32 ET - 2007/08/07 dimathegrinder (Observer): ? Seat 1: TommyDukes (18,728) Seat 2: BKiCe (11,368) Seat 3: ginter (13,807) Seat 4: Whipsaw3 (30,075) Seat 5: Jimmy3times (8,826) Seat 6: UbsoLute (62,275) Seat 7: Erick Lindgren (53,096) Seat 8: HolezLikeSwiss (22,332) Seat 9: yoren8 (29,650) TommyDukes antes 125 BKiCe antes 125 ginter antes 125 Whipsaw3 antes 125 Jimmy3times antes 125 UbsoLute antes 125 Erick Lindgren antes 125 HolezLikeSwiss antes 125 yoren8 antes 125 ginter posts the small blind of 500 Whipsaw3 posts the big blind of 1,000 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to yoren8 [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] Jimmy3times folds UbsoLute has 15 seconds left to act UbsoLute raises to 2,500 Erick Lindgren calls 2,500 HolezLikeSwiss folds yoren8 ? [/ QUOTE ] yoren8 calls 2,500 (<font color="blue">I ended up calling and feel that this is optimal, if I had say 25k, I'd flip a coin between jamming and calling, and I'd def just move AI if I had 20k</font>) TommyDukes folds BKiCe folds ginter calls 2,000 Whipsaw3 folds *** FLOP *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (Pot = 12125) ginter checks UbsoLute checks Erick Lindgren checks yoren8 ? A) Check B) Bet/call 5kish C) Bet/call 9kish D) Bet/call some other amount Please state why you prefer the action you advise.
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