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Old 04-06-2007, 12:50 AM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

Villain is running 28/16/1 over 100 hands. No history, pretty unknown. Preflop is probably meh FWIW. I usually raise I guess.

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$0.50/$1 Blinds
6 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<font color="black">Hero (SB): $120.50</font>
BB: $49
UTG: $117.95
<u>MP: $90.65</u>
CO: $91.40
BTN: $64.85

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.50, 6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.50, 2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $4</font>, Hero?
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

i like a lead for $5 or $6, then just shutdown, your calling a cbet there at least anyways
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

Anyone else?
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

c/r is good here or on turn. I do this against opponents who are aggro and cbet alot. If called I instashutdown though.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

I think this thread is of relevance. The dilemna is basically that while he rarely extract value from a worse hand on the flop by c/r, it still seems to be the best course of action.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

I don't totally mind a C/R...but I think I slightly prefer C/C'ing. By C/R'ing we're turning our hand into a bluff. I'd rather C/R this flop w/ complete air than 88, as 88 still has some decent value against his range. The turn really depends on your read on the villain. If he's more straightforward I'll probably lead a safe turn. If he's tricky/aggro...I like C/C'ing maybe one more street and re-evaluating the river.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

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I don't totally mind a C/R...but I think I slightly prefer C/C'ing. By C/R'ing we're turning our hand into a bluff. I'd rather C/R this flop w/ complete air than 88, as 88 still has some decent value against his range.

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The reason i say c/r here because villain is most likely weak as the half pot flop bet gives away. Calling here is bad for a couple of reasons.
1) villain has overs/draw. We are letting him draw to hit.
2)Villain has any two cards but fires a 2nd barrel after we showed weakness by calling a half pot bet on flop.
3)c/r with a mid PP here then getting called by top pair or over pair and hopefully a cheap showdown sets us up for later hands when we c/r with a monster.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

Yeah, I C/R flop, and this is a really good flop for 88. Or you could just C/C given his low AF.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

c/r is ok here i make it 14$ to go
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Akward yet necessary C/R?

Preflop: I like a call more than a reraise.

Flop: it's hard to go wrong as long as u don't fold.
-- u can lead but given his high vpip and trips probably wouldn't lead, I prefer a check

-- check raise is fine. but I'm not sure if you're going to get a fold from an over pair. and if u check-raise are u planning on betting the turn?

-- I like a check-call and lead turn best. Check-call, check fold is also goot.
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