NL100: AKo at button flop trip A. How much to bet??

Beck · #1 02-14-2006, 10:42 PM

NL100, blind 0.5/1

SB $99
BB $80.15
UTG $118.9
UTG1 $84.95
UTG2 $141.45
MP $102.75
MP1 $84.30
MP2 $205.89
CO $23
Button (Hero) $96.75

Dealt to hero A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

2 folds, UTG2 calls, 1 fold, MP1 call, 2 folds, hero raises to 5, blinds and UTG2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop ($12.5)
A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP1 checks, hero bets 3, MP1 raises to 6, hero calls.

My weak flop bet was of course to indicate I didn't hit the A, so hopefully I could get some pocket pairs to come along.
I only called here, since I figured if he had a lower A or perhaps a pocket pair, he wouldn't be to eager to pay me of if I reraised. Please flame me.

Turn ($24.5)
T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP1 bets 10, hero calls.
Again same reasoning. In the hindsight I should have raised here.

River ($44.5)
5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP1 bets 25, hero calls.

So basically I go into call down mode instead of punishing him with my big hand.

I feel I misplayed this hand in every possible way. So please, fell free to comment.

Gary Stevenson · #2 02-14-2006, 10:47 PM

bet more on flop...or check behind (no).

Gary Stevenson · #3 02-14-2006, 10:50 PM

by betting more on flop, say he tries his gay little c/min raise again, if you had bet 10 then he makes it 20 and you flat call, you both have put $25 in the pot. When he bets the turn...which he most likely will, it's an easy push and he either calls with a weaker ace, maybe flush draw, maybe lays down his air or maybe has you crushed with a boat...if so unlucky

masterdon · #4 02-14-2006, 10:52 PM

I pot the flop. I want to end this pot as quickly as possible and not let some crappy flush draw or Ace-rag suck out on me. They'll probably still pay anyway, but at least you can know you pushed your edge when you had it.

Beck · #5 02-15-2006, 01:26 AM

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I pot the flop. I want to end this pot as quickly as possible and not let some crappy flush draw or Ace-rag suck out on me. They'll probably still pay anyway, but at least you can know you pushed your edge when you had it.

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Pot the flop?? Isn't that totally overkill, with trips, top kicker?? Or am I just being to greedy, afraid to not make any money on a hand like this?

lazy1290 · #6 02-15-2006, 01:47 AM

I actually like the way you played it. You bet the flop to be deceptive, smooth called his raise, which disguised your hand fairly well. On the turn you just call in case he has a very weak ace, a pocket pair, is on a complete bluff, or already has a full. You let him keep the lead here because any of the above hands will probably not stand a raise(except the full of course), but they may bet. The river was played correctly as well, i would just smooth call here to minimize your losses if he filled up, as most likely that is the only way he would call a raise. He may have filled up but that's just bad luck, he was drawing very thin if he had a worse ace to start. Also, you haven't really revealed the strength of your hand so such a large raise seems strange. He had to put you on a weak hand unless he has seen you play trips in a similar way previously. Many times that would be a bluff.

stu-unger · #7 02-15-2006, 01:50 AM

bet 2/3-3/4 pot on the flop, call a raise. 1/2-2/3 pot the turn, or push if he raised your flop bet and lead the turn...

Garon · #8 02-15-2006, 02:19 AM

Hi Beck,

I would pot the flop also for the first bet, as PSB's are my standard line when I bet the flop for any reason. Most people think you should slowplay trip aces so by betting you are disguising your hand plus you are charging the diamond draw and the weaker ace. If your normal flop bets are less than make your normal flop bet. I hope your normal flop bet isn't 1/4 pot, if it is start making it more. 1/4 pot on the flop is giving good odds to draws, the exact opposite of what you want to do. And as they say, you have to bet big to win a big pot. If villain minraises your PSB on the flop, I like stu's line of calling then pushing the turn.

Yes, as played you should have raised on the turn.

Garon

Beck · #9 02-15-2006, 03:02 AM

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I would pot the flop also for the first bet, as PSB's are.....

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PSB???

Dennisa · #10 02-15-2006, 03:17 AM

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I pot the flop. I want to end this pot as quickly as possible and not let some crappy flush draw or Ace-rag suck out on me. They'll probably still pay anyway, but at least you can know you pushed your edge when you had it.

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Whether I am betting air/ tptk or trips and boat I try to always bet the same amount. For me its about 2/3 - 3/4 of the pot on the flop. I dont want to give away the value of my hand based on my bets.

Pot the flop?? Isn't that totally overkill, with trips, top kicker?? Or am I just being to greedy, afraid to not make any money on a hand like this?

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