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Old 11-22-2006, 04:18 AM
chanchuan chanchuan is offline
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Default Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

No reads on the villain whatsoever.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $2.52
UTG+1: $1.98
CO: $2.60
Button: $5.72
SB: $6.17
Hero: $4.04

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.2</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.45, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.35</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000"></font> Hero ?

1. Is that a standard reraise? Villain flops his flush less than 1% of the time, so maybe reraise now and see what comes?
2. If the turn is another diamond, it's time to sail away, right?
3. The result was astonishing, I'll post it later.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:27 AM
Sir Winalot Sir Winalot is offline
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

0.3 preflop, 3-bet AI flop.
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:35 AM
elgatoesme elgatoesme is offline
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

I bet he took you for two high cards and missed flop. He min reraised with nothing thinking that would push you off?
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

0.2$ preflop is perfectly ok.
Now its difficult. Going allin now is pointless as you will be flipping coin or be completely dead.
I think the best is to call and without a read get it in on non-diamond turn (or fold diamond one).
With a read that he is solid (is that even possible at those stakes ?) you can call now with a plan of calling small bets and folding to bigger ones.
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:00 AM
Tjorriemorrie Tjorriemorrie is offline
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

This is where you need a read, lol

I'll fold. If you think he thinks you are bluffing, then call and see what happens on river.
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:19 AM
Sir Winalot Sir Winalot is offline
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

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0.2$ preflop is perfectly ok.
Now its difficult. Going allin now is pointless as you will be flipping coin or be completely dead.
I think the best is to call and without a read get it in on non-diamond turn (or fold diamond one).
With a read that he is solid (is that even possible at those stakes ?) you can call now with a plan of calling small bets and folding to bigger ones.

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IMO 0.2 is too small. Two words can tell why I don't like your c/c down line: stakes &amp; short-stack.
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

I think I'd go all in against the short stack.
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

ALL IN!
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

I raise .25 pf, I dont like to 3-bet ai here. I would call and re-eval the turn
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Old 11-22-2006, 03:39 PM
King Spew King Spew is offline
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Default Re: Is that a clear reraise? 0.05 NL mono flop

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Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $25.20
UTG+1: $19.80
CO: $26.00
Button: $57.20
SB: $61.70
Hero: $40.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.50, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="#cc0000"></font> Hero ?
<font color="red">Fix dollar amount for readability [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] </font>

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First off, $2 PFR is fine. $3.00 is better because you are one of the blinds and I make larger than "normal" raises out of the blinds.... always.

Second, villain is not a shorty at "only" half a load.... I generally consider shorties at $10 and under.

The heart of the matter is how to protect your hand OOP with TP (overpair) against a probable flush draw, and possible straight draw. In a nut shell, you can't. You have a HUGE reverse implied odds hand that almost CAN NOT IMPROVE against all kinds of draws that can make toast and jam with your nads. Let's not forget villain "may" hold 99, 88, 22.

Villain WITHOUT reads miniraises your 3/4 pot flop raise..... gives you very few GOOD options. I would be tempted to fold AND FORGET about it. Afterall, you only have top pair. I might call if I had reads on what a miniraise means.... but you are most likely up against the NFD draw or a made weaker flush here IMO.

Bottom line, protect your bankroll and fold. If I am of the attitude that I must win EVERY hand, I would push his miniraise. But I think it's a coin flip situation and I wouldn't want to risk a stack on a flip..... there will be better times.
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