AK reraise the unknown SB from the BB

[kaz2107]

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($33.31)
MP ($24.20)
CO ($24.40)
Button ($38.68)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($24.75)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25.40)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $1.9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.75</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, SB calls $17.75 (All-In), Hero calls $6.75.

Turn: ($50.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($50.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $50.50

Reads and thoughts...

Villian has only played 2 hands so no reads here.

I reraise to isolate villian since everyone limped and i wanted to have postion with the intention of calling a push.

On the flop he checks to me so it seems like i have to cbet. (Do i?) And if i do how much should it b here since the pot is so big in comparison to our stacks. Do i want to make it ig enough to commit me to a push or should it be something weaker so i can easily fold my measly 2 overs?

[gimmetheloot]

I think I would go ahead and make it 8.5 pf and just shove any flop.

[kaz2107]

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I think I would go ahead and make it 8.5 pf and just shove any flop.

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if i raise to 8.5 pre wut is ur line if villian leads this flop? still looking to get it in?

[degenrat]

i am calling PF and pushing most often when an A or K hits the flop. I think the RR PF her does very little good for us besides bloat the pot.

[Buckmulligan]

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i am calling PF and pushing most often when an A or K hits the flop.

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[gimmetheloot]

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I think I would go ahead and make it 8.5 pf and just shove any flop.

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if i raise to 8.5 pre wut is ur line if villian leads this flop? still looking to get it in?

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On that flop, obv just fold.

On a A/K high, obv call.

[Art Vandalay]

Reraise to about 8 preflop, and if villain checks to you push, but if villain leads, fold (on this flop).

[evilempire]

I think this is too aggressive. For those advocating the push on the flop what are you assuming his range is?

Board: Qs 9s 3d
Dead:

Hand 1: 75.6457 % 65.44% 10.21% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 24.3543 % 14.15% 10.21% { AhKs }

Hand 1: 74.3205 % 61.33% 12.99% { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 25.6795 % 12.69% 12.99% { AhKs }

Unless my range is way off I don't see how we nearly have enough fold equity against a typical opponent at 25NL.
If villian is willing to call your PF reraise with AQ you are NOT going to get him to fold it. I think we only get called by hands that dominate us: AA, KK, QQ, AQ+ or will just split the pot if lucky. If anything the Ace is probably our only clean out if he didn't hit a set.
I'd like some feedback on this because I play aggressive preflop but slow down if I miss.

(And adding all pocket pairs to villians range only increases our equity by about 2%)

[kaz2107]

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i am calling PF and pushing most often when an A or K hits the flop.

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this line seems rediculous. if i call pf the pot will be like 5.50 or sumtin and i will have like 23ish behind. how on earth am i pushing the flop?

after i have thought about it today i think i like the line of reraising 8 or 8.5 pre and then giving up if villian bets into me when no A or K hit and the pushing any flop when checked to. by reraisng preflop it gives me a ton of FE on the flop and imo wut makes this play profitable. so i have to use that when cheked to but must also give up when bet into. i wish effective stacks were much deeper here so that i would have more room to play.

[Buckmulligan]

I actually think you're right, kaz. I don't like the line I suggested either.