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Old 09-26-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($42.86)</font>
SB ($18.47)
BB ($15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($27.55)</font>
MP ($26.01)
CO ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($21.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($21.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Hero calls $17.05 (All-In).

Final Pot: $58.40

Reads and thought...

Villian was 32 23 4.5 over 97 hands. He hadnt gotten out of line with me up untill this point but was a decent player for nl25 was pretty aggressive.

I have been playin 25 16 4 and assume villian is decent enough to have a decent read on me and how i have been playing.


*QUESTION 1*
So iraise prelop and get reraised from the button. My first question is how tight is his ranger here? my range is decently wide here but i think i have a wider than average reraise ranges for 25nl. does 99+ AQ+ and maybe a suited connecter or two seem to wide?

*QUESTION 2*
So i call and then decide to play an extremely passive line here. I check and let him cbet and then decide on the turn where to go. Is this an ok line or should i be looking lead the flop here and then fold to a reraise or give up if called?

*QUESTION 3*
So i check the turn to try and not bloat the pot in such an akward spot. Villian checks behind which was sort of suprising. The river is another blank and i check again. Now villin pots it. Do i now need to call because i have shown so little strength that it has given him the green light to pot hands like AQ+ and all pocket pairs?
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

i think you played this perfectly.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

as played bet 14 on river
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

The check is to give him an opportunity to try to bet with AK/AQ again. You bet, he folds these (likely) hands. You check, he may bluff at the pot.

I just don't know how many decent LAGs check behind this turn with an overpair. I just don't feel that is very likely, so I definitely call the river.
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

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as played bet 14 on river

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we only have 17 left?
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

For all those who are calling, I'm assuming you are calling a4, 33, etc also.
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:39 AM
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For all those who are calling, I'm assuming you are calling a4, 33, etc also.

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I dont think any of us woul have A4/33 in this situation.
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Old 09-26-2006, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

if you're willing to felt your hand, this is the best way to do it.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

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if you're willing to felt your hand, this is the best way to do it.

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if not where do i let it go? because if im calling preflop this is almost the best flop i can shoot for???i dont see where i should let this go? if he fired the turn i thinki have a chance to let it go. but as the hand played out i dont see where i should b folding here.
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: JJ oop gets reraised preflop by decent LAG (Questions on 3 parts)

There's no way villain checks an overpair on the turn with straight and diamond draws out the wazoo. This is either a busted flush draw or a busted overcard draw. I check and call every time since betting the river would only make him fold, but you can pick off a bluff here.
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