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Old 09-25-2006, 09:41 PM
JustToast JustToast is offline
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Default QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

UTG is 17/13/4 through 181 hands

Thoughts on this fold? I'm running bad and might be seeing ghosts because of it -- need a checkup.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($215.83)
Button ($71.02)
SB ($89)
Hero ($130.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $32</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $44.50
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

good fold.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

Def gotta fold. Coinflip at best.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

This is fine.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

You would need serious metagame to get involved here, especially at these stakes.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

Jam,
at what stakes/point does this become a call? I read msnl a dec. amount and I see alot of advocating calling QQ ai at those upper levels.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

orange,

In a 4-handed game at 5/10 or even 3/6 I'd never lay down QQ+ or AK to the more aggressive preflop players for 100BB. If you're going to 3-bet a reasonable range and fold those hands then you're asking to be run over like crazy. 2/4 and below the players aren't aggressive enough to make those moves.
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

[ QUOTE ]
Jam,
at what stakes/point does this become a call? I read msnl a dec. amount and I see alot of advocating calling QQ ai at those upper levels.

[/ QUOTE ]

UTG vs BB still plays pretty honest, even at higher stakes with more aggressive opponents(except in a few cases with past history). Even with history, I don't think I've ever gotten the money in good with qq utg.
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

id raise a little more OOP like $14 or $16
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: QQ in BB Faces 4-bet From UTG

standard fold w/o reads here
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