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Old 09-24-2006, 06:44 PM
HumanACtor HumanACtor is offline
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Default Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

Thoughts on the hand: Post flop Im thinking villain caught a 3, because I thought with a 7 he would wait for my c-bet. So I put him on A3/34s/32s and kept him there while I looked for the showdown. Im still not sure what to think of my river call since disallowing the possibiliy of a 7 left me to believe the turn and river could not have helped villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($49.75)
CO ($57.55)
Button ($37.75)
SB ($32.95)
BB ($121.45)
UTG ($47.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($15.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $31.25
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

I like it. Sometimes you're shown a slightly higher pp, sometimes lower but the betting is pretty cheap. Hope he didn't have 66. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

I guess I'm wondering too if anyone thinks a raise is in order here and where.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

I raise the flop and thats the last money Im putting in the middle probably.

edit: when I read the title I saw passive and was thinking the villain is passive. I dont mind how it played out I would expect to see a small PP a lot.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

I like how you playd this hand
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:04 PM
VashJuggalo VashJuggalo is offline
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

I don't mind the way you played it. I usually go with a raise on the flop though, just to clear the air.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

When someone bets out like this, I usually have them on either a weak made hand or a weak draw. In either case, I like raising this flop.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

Just wondering why people advocate a flop raise here. That is one dry flop. Isn't this WA/WB? Why fold weaker hands? I'm mainly a limit player and now play NL25. If hero raises and villain just calls, what is the plan if the cards fall as they did?
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

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When someone bets out like this, I usually have them on either a weak made hand or a weak draw. In either case, I like raising this flop.

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well considering the only draw is a gutshot, and any worse made hand prob folds to a raise, I think the best line is to let him keep bluffing/vb worse hand
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Passive line with PP, stuck with initial read.

bonsey: I advocate a raise so that the opponent is making a mistake when he decides to continue in the hand.

dbitel: how often do you think a typical nl25er keeps semibluffing a gutshot on the turn? I dont think its very often.
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