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nl25 AA on ugly flop
villain has 5 pfr and around 40 vpip
i put him on KK/QQ/JJ, but his bet sizes were so small that i decided to call him down, what do you think about my play here? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG+1 ($24.96) <font color="#C00000">MP1 ($23.59)</font> MP2 ($4.75) MP3 ($3.75) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.90)</font> Button ($23.75) SB ($21.89) BB ($15) UTG ($12.15) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.85, MP1 calls $1.60. Flop: ($6.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, UTG folds. Turn: ($10.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2. River: ($14.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1. Final Pot: $16.65 |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
i would raise the turn for a free showdown.
and for value too i guess |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
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i would raise the turn for a free showdown. and for value too i guess [/ QUOTE ] Raising the turn will accomplish neither of those. I like a raise on the flop and then probably enter shutdownmode after that if called. |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
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[ QUOTE ] i would raise the turn for a free showdown. and for value too i guess [/ QUOTE ] Raising the turn will accomplish neither of those. I like a raise on the flop and then probably enter shutdownmode after that if called. [/ QUOTE ] villain never has aq/aj here? maybe not so much free showdown. |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
I may be too aggressive, but I re-pop it to $8 on the flop and shut down after that if called.
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
raising the turn is spew.
make a move on the flop I'd make it $9 to go, shutdown to further aggression. it's not that bad a flop, we have an overpair and a gutshot and it's the nut draw so we're only really worried about a flopped straight (unlikely) or flopped 2pair, the board pairs so unless he has a K or KK (KK is unlikely given preflop action) we are usually good. This looks like AK/AQ/AJ/KQ if villain called my flop raise and made tiny bets turn and river I'd calldown as well. as played I think ths calldown is fine. KK/QQ/JJ are possible but this looks more like AK I think. |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
Raise the flop, and if villain calls, c/c the turn and river if he's going to continue to make tiny bets.
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
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Raise the flop, and if villain calls, c/c the turn and river if he's going to continue to make tiny bets. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. And I hope villain had a K here and won the smallest pot possible against an opponent who has aces. |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
What an awful flop.
I think calling is best (on the flop). I don't see what raising accomplishes...I suppose value from AK/etc, but if he calls a raise, ugh. I don't really mind calling down, but I think that you are losing value somewhere. I would probably value raise the river. |
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Re: nl25 AA on ugly flop
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I don't really mind calling down, but I think that you are losing value somewhere. I would probably value raise the river. [/ QUOTE ] for value vs what hand? |
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