calling for a chop?

ColdSteel · #1 09-23-2006, 02:05 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, SB calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises to $4.5

The SB has only been here for an orbit or two. In that time I saw him go all-in preflop once after I raised & got a coldcall. We both folded to the push & the hand wasnt shown. Thats really all I know.

My thoughts were that if I call I'm beating only a bluff or calling for a chop. Does that sound right, and does that mean fold?

EMc · #2 09-23-2006, 02:06 PM

At BEST you are calling for a chop. Fold.

Sir Winalot · #3 09-23-2006, 02:07 PM

Yeah. I'd fold. You're chopping at best.

ColdSteel · #4 09-23-2006, 02:08 PM

How do you like how I played so far

Sir Winalot · #5 09-23-2006, 02:55 PM

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I'd check behind on flop. The turn bet is fine.

SubaruSTiMike · #6 09-23-2006, 03:15 PM

Turn should be a bet fold, I hate those cards that get you into trouble, those unclean outs, dirty dirty outs! It makes a straight for you but a flush for them, a check raise is pretty strong. I don't know if I'd semi bluff with a gut shot straight draw.

Sh@i'tan · #7 09-23-2006, 03:54 PM

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depending upon how often the sb completes, i often raise ATC after he completes. But i don't mind the flop bet, turn bet is good, now fold.

xwillience · #8 09-23-2006, 04:26 PM

this is one of those weird hands that I dont bet at all. I just call with it.

kokiri · #9 09-23-2006, 04:27 PM

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i respectfully disagree with our new mod.

in position i'm happy to call this turn, but i would then fold to a big river bet. i think that overpairs and 2p might play this way and slow down on the river.

it's a small pot still and i have a big hand. In a blind vs blind contest crazy stuff happens and villain cannot put you on as strong a hand as you have. If villain is prepared to fire again on th eriver in size, so be it you can fold in good consience but folding the turn is weak.

kokiri · #10 09-23-2006, 04:30 PM

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this is one of those weird hands that I dont bet at all. I just call with it.

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i kinda know what you mean - i've probably lost more with bigger hands in blind vs. blind contests than anywhere else, just 'cos you don't know at all what your villain might hold. As a result I am not keen to play a really big pot with my holding. But the pot is still not large