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09-23-2006, 11:43 AM
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Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
no reads on villains just sat down, but both limped so im not seeing AK KQ here too often, i was more worried about the frushh, anybody betting this turn (its just soo ugly kills all action or my hand), I think my line extracts the most value when im ahead and loses me the least when im behind what you guys think?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG+2 ($4.30) MP1 ($15.41) MP2 ($25.07) MP3 ($4.80) CO ($18.35) Button ($39.75) SB ($9.75) Hero ($28.50) UTG ($10) UTG+1 ($21.20) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks. Flop: ($1) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.95</font>, MP1 calls $0.95, Button folds, SB calls $0.95. Turn: ($3.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks. River: ($3.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.77</font>, Hero calls $3.77, MP1 calls $3.77. Final Pot: $15.16 
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#2
09-23-2006, 11:53 AM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
I think you might have to fold the river, as disgusting as that is. When the first to act on the river bets out, it's often because he missed value on the turn and doesn't want to risk it again. Plus, having MP1 behind you makes it that much worse. Crappy spot...
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#3
09-23-2006, 11:57 AM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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I think you might have to fold the river, as disgusting as that is. When the first to act on the river bets out, it's often because he missed value on the turn and doesn't want to risk it again. Plus, having MP1 behind you makes it that much worse. Crappy spot... [/ QUOTE ] you know during the day i would have folded this, but my spider senses were tingling and my weak turn check paid off, as qj was betting and A3H called down for the straight too scoop, but yeah im folding this like all day long most to a complete unkknown, i just didnt see SB not betting his flush draw, (I had seen him do it just a couple hands earlier, but forgot to mention that in OP), could have been a lot of reasons for not betting flush draw I know, coordinated flop, no PFR lots of stuff, but something just didnt sit right with the bet so i called and win
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#5
09-23-2006, 12:12 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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Bet turn, call river...I think you're seeing monsters. [/ QUOTE ] two callers on that board and your not worried about floosh at all?
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#6
09-23-2006, 12:15 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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[ QUOTE ] Bet turn, call river...I think you're seeing monsters. [/ QUOTE ] two callers on that board and your not worried about floosh at all? [/ QUOTE ] I would be. The standard muSNL flush line is c/c flop, check turn, bet near-pot on the river. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO obvious.
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#7
09-23-2006, 12:45 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
dont be afraid just b/c 3 spades hit the board...that flop probably hit in some way but it doesnt mean a flush hit..id probably bet 2 on the turn and see how they react...dont play scared
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#8
09-23-2006, 01:02 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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[ QUOTE ] Bet turn, call river...I think you're seeing monsters. [/ QUOTE ] two callers on that board and your not worried about floosh at all? [/ QUOTE ] Bet/fold on the turn is cheaper than calling the PSB on the river if you're behind. Yeah I'm concerned about a full house and a flush, I didn't say push, but I'd bet the turn.
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#9
09-23-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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no reads on villains just sat down, but both limped so im not seeing AK KQ here too often, i was more worried about the frushh, anybody betting this turn (its just soo ugly kills all action or my hand), I think my line extracts the most value when im ahead and loses me the least when im behind what you guys think? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG+2 ($4.30) MP1 ($15.41) MP2 ($25.07) MP3 ($4.80) CO ($18.35) Button ($39.75) SB ($9.75) Hero ($28.50) UTG ($10) UTG+1 ($21.20) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks. Flop: ($1) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.95</font>, MP1 calls $0.95, Button folds, SB calls $0.95. Turn: ($3.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks. River: ($3.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.77</font>, Hero calls $3.77, MP1 calls $3.77. Final Pot: $15.16 [/ QUOTE ] To me, this is one of those flops that you bet the hell out of; mostly because the hands that hit this flop are excited to hit it but are still worse than yours. As played, the river is a call for me.
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#10
09-23-2006, 01:09 PM
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Re: Flop broadway, but turn is card of DOOOOMMMMMMM what you do?
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[ QUOTE ] no reads on villains just sat down, but both limped so im not seeing AK KQ here too often, i was more worried about the frushh, anybody betting this turn (its just soo ugly kills all action or my hand), I think my line extracts the most value when im ahead and loses me the least when im behind what you guys think? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG+2 ($4.30) MP1 ($15.41) MP2 ($25.07) MP3 ($4.80) CO ($18.35) Button ($39.75) SB ($9.75) Hero ($28.50) UTG ($10) UTG+1 ($21.20) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks. Flop: ($1) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.95</font>, MP1 calls $0.95, Button folds, SB calls $0.95. Turn: ($3.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks. River: ($3.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.77</font>, Hero calls $3.77, MP1 calls $3.77. Final Pot: $15.16 [/ QUOTE ] To me, this is one of those flops that you bet the hell out of; mostly because the hands that hit this flop are excited to hit it but are still worse than yours. As played, the river is a call for me. [/ QUOTE ] How much more would you bet here? OP is already PSB'ing this flop.
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