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Old 09-06-2006, 01:04 PM
cmac99 cmac99 is offline
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Default Flopped 2 pair on suited board

Ok, with this one I'd like to get some opinions about both playing the turn here and also what kind of bet to put out on the river.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $143.50
UTG+1: $253.70
MP1: $331.95
MP2: $198
CO: $240.90
Button: $286.55
hero: $144.15
BB: $144

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 5 folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $14</font>, UTG folds, hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $22</font>, hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($78, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero ???
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

flop is fine..i fold turn ....riv b2b allin (40 or so)..i'd be out on turn tho..
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:12 PM
kongs kongs is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

I would throw out a $50-60 bet and hope he re-raises which is likely if he has the flush.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

I'm not folding the turn here, but if I don't fill up I'm folding to significant river heat.

As it turned out.....CRAI on river is sooooooo hot if you're pretty sure hes betting, otherwise bet $40 and hope he raises
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:18 PM
joepike16 joepike16 is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

I like the pot sized bet here on the flop. The raise doesnt automaticaly indicate that you are beaten. You could be up agianst a 9 with a high card, or even a pair with a high flush draw. The check/call on the turn was okay too since a non scare card appeared, if you were losing then you were already beat. On the river I think you have to bet out for about 1/2 the pot. The chances are you have the best hand, a 96 is a longshot. And a check is to likely not to induce a bet from your opponent.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:22 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

Reads please.

I'm usually not folding the turn here. There are a lot of hands villain could have. Reads or stats would make this easier.

I bet $50 on river.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

vs a solid player..I don't like our situation....if we dont fill up we are playing a huge pot and lots of cards can fill up villain...is folding here that bad?
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

I'd probably fold turn; If you are behind you have very few outs against villain, and if villain is behind he has tons of outs against you.

On the river you boated up, great. If villain flopped a set, you are almost certainly stacking him here, but if villain flopped a flush, you will probably find it hard to get paid. I think going for a c/r is pretty bad, as villain could easily have the sense to check behind a flush. And if villain has a boat, he is raising when you lead out, so no worries about losing value in that scenario.

Lead river for ~half pot.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Flopped 2 pair on suited board

[ QUOTE ]
but if villain flopped a flush, you will probably find it hard to get paid.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wrong.

OP: You should really be reloading preflop.
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