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07-01-2006, 07:05 PM
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Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
I am here for my whuppin' now.
The whole table is LAGgish, but not completely stupid postflop. Party Poker NL100 (6 Max) Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $46 UTG+1: $80.37 Donk: $108.15 Button: $182.10 SB: $57.33 BB: $93.59 Pre-flop: (6 players) Donk is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Donk calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players) SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3</font>, Donk calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls. Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $7</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $14</font>, Donk calls, SB calls. River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($59, 3 players) SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Donk bets $15</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls. Results: Final pot: $104 On a lighter note, the whole table lightly berated me for my play after the hand. I let them go for a while, and then told them that "they just didn't have the right pattern mapper." 
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#3
07-01-2006, 07:10 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
My thought on the river was this: The players at the table were jumping on weakness, so I wanted to project some with the small bet, and induce a c/r.
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#4
07-01-2006, 08:26 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
Yeah - what's wrong? You just have to bet more on the river to actually get back the -EV you pay by drawing like this. If it were reasonable that somebody would RR the river this is fine IMHO.
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#5
07-01-2006, 08:29 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
[ QUOTE ]
You just have to bet more on the river to actually get back the -EV you pay by drawing like this. [/ QUOTE ] I think the flop is +EV when you factor implied odds, and assuming both of Hero's draws are good on the turn, getting strung along with two other players in the pot is neutral EV (not even counting future bets when he hits) as he's 2:1 to hit his draw; if anything, building a large pot for when he hits his draw is probably a good thing.
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#6
07-01-2006, 08:30 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
Bet WAY more on the river. Obviosuly you arent getting the immediate odds to call on the flo/turn, so to justify your call you have to get mor value on the river. You could probably have bet $30-40 here and gotten 2 callers.
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#8
07-01-2006, 08:33 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
I agree. You had an OE on the flop and added a flush draw on the turn. Why wouldn't you try to see the river for that price? Definitely bet more on the river though. That 8 wasn't an obvious scare card, so theres really no need to act weak, IMO
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#9
07-01-2006, 08:55 PM
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Re: Hello. My name is DerFleisch, and I am a donk.
Preflop is OK, and you have good odds to call and draw all the way down. As played you even recovered your investment on the turn, but you certainly could have gotten more. 1/2 pot river, standard value bet.
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