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Horrid AA hand
God I butchered this one. villian is 22/3/1.5, and rather unremarkable. Stacks are 50$.
I have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on button, villian is MP1. Villian opens for 3$, I reraise to 8$, villian calls. Flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] -- pot 16$ -- villian checks, I check Turn T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] -- Villian checks, I bet 8$, villian raises to 16, I call River J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 48) -- Villian open pushes for 25$, hero folds River is a fold because I beat ONLY KK, and I think he plays that faster somewhere either preflop or on flop. I didn't fold turn because I only lose to QQ and TT... and I don't think he calls PF with TT given his PT numbers. Obviously I need to bet this flop because other than QQ he can't have a Q. Furthermore, 16% of the money went in PF... so paying him off can't be that bad anyway supposing he does have AQ. Bet 10 on flop and get it in ont he turn right? |
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Re: Horrid AA hand
I'd bet this flop, $10 sounds good, though I might be more tempted for $8 - there're no potential draws, and I figure this is a good time to keep the pot a little smaller.
Your check means you have QQ, KK or AA to villian, so after the check, I can live with your line, though I'd be thinking of folding to the re-raise. I am a bit weak tight sometimes, especially with no information on that flop :] So, $8 on the flop, $12 on the turn, let's see what happens. |
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Re: Horrid AA hand
Definitely would have bet the flop. With a QQ on the board, this may have chased him out, and now if he's in with suited connectors he just drew a nice hand.
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Re: Horrid AA hand
bet the flop and find out what he's got. Most will flat-call with a Q here.
Edit: Your line is the line a lot of people take when they raise PF and flop a monster. Checking the flop and betting the turn screams monster and he's not afraid of it. Fold the turn as played. |
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Re: Horrid AA hand
Flop check is fine as long as you also check behind when you miss (I do this a lot). I like the turn raise, but make it more. River is close, he might be donk pushing a counterfeited two pair but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised to see a KT or JT here.
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#6
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Re: Horrid AA hand
I like hero's line here. Flop we are wa/wb why get check raised off the best hand a good portion of the time. I think a flop bet is kinda weak and looks too much like JJ, 1010, or AK. I really like how hero played this hand, except I woulda bet a little more on the turn, prob like 10 or 12.
Edit- Make it 10 to go preflop. |
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Re: Horrid AA hand
Raise more preflop
Bet the flop....dont let him outdraw you if he's behind and try and gather some info if he's ahead |
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Re: Horrid AA hand
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Raise more preflop Bet the flop....dont let him outdraw you if he's behind and try and gather some info if he's ahead [/ QUOTE ] Why are we protecting our hand here? What hand can villain have that we are worried about being outdrawn? If villain calls the flop we also still have no idea where we are. I really hate your proposed line and your logic. Hero's limne reps much more strength than yours and makes it much easier to fold to aggression |
#9
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Re: Horrid AA hand
Betting the flop isn't protecting the hand. Villain should not be able to call this without another big pair or a Q unless he's on a pure bluff. And frankly, if someone wants to gamble that I DONT have a Q here and bluff at this pot, they've earned it imho.
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#10
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Re: Horrid AA hand
If villain has any sort of hand reading skills it should be obvious hero almost never has a queen here.
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