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Old 05-06-2006, 10:51 PM
BigTurkey BigTurkey is offline
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Default Can I fold this overpair on the river?

UTG is LAG pre-flop

MP2 is loose/passive, drunk, and has been chasing longshots too the river all night.

BB is a pit boss at another casino. She is LAG, reads hands fairly well, but seems to go limp on the river without a clear winner. She misapplies concepts like "free showdown" raises on the turn. She will bet as a bluff when it looks like she might pick up the pot, but she lacks killer instinct

UTG calls, I raise Kings in MP1, MP2 calls, donk calls on the button, BB calls, LAG calls and we all call.

(~10SB)Flop: J57

BB bets, LAG raises all-in, I 3bet, MP2 calls, BB calls

(10BB)Turn:8

BB bets, I call, MP2 calls

River: 9

BB bets, MP2 is ready to muck, I?
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

1) It's difficult to analyze this hand without knowing the suits of any of the cards.
2) Did you consider raising the turn?
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

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1) It's difficult to analyze this hand without knowing the suits of any of the cards.
2) Did you consider raising the turn?

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My bad. I really don't remember the suits. I don't think there was a flush draw on the flop, but I'm not sure.

I considered raising the turn but I wasn't certain she wouldn't three bet with two pair. If I intend to call a river bet anyway and a three bet means trips or better, this might be a good line. After I decided not to raise my tentative plan was to fold to a river bet if a 4 or a 9 came.
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

raise the freakin' turn already. my gosh. after that call. pots too big to fold, even though you let everyone and their mother draw for cheap. hand protection?
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

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I considered raising the turn but I wasn't certain she wouldn't three bet with two pair.

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Or we could even be drawing dead to a 46/68/T9 straight. Futhermore, if you're confident in your read on her and she three-bets the turn, you can probably fold the river if you don't improve and the board doesn't pair, even though the pot will then be rather bloated.
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

raising and calling a 3bet seems like bigtime spewage to me. I'm a significant dog to her range and there's only one guy behind me.
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Can I fold this overpair on the river?

I raise the turn often here. Since u said she is lag she could be playing TP this agressivly.
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