A Just-sat-down AA hand

[ajmargarine]

Going over last nite's session....only one hand I found to be something other than totally standard and boring. Just sat down, no reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Hero ($98)
Button ($236)
SB ($93.05)
BB ($108.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $34</font>, BB folds, Hero...

[4_2_it]

All in. Looks like AK to me. Of course 44 or 55 are possible as is the unlikely flush draw. I always seem to get stacked here so I am open to a better line with no reads.

[djoyce003]

always fun when you just sat down. I'd call and let him hang himself on the turn.

[Hoopster81]

call, c/r turn ai

[z28dreams]

Without reads these are really tough. Hell, WITH reads these are tough.

Being heads-up, most kings will raise here too.

I think it's push or fold though, since there are tons of scare cards out there for you (diamond, 8, 3, etc)

[noggindoc]

I'm probably getting stacked here if beat. You just sat down and its hard to put someone on AA. It is also tempting for someone to raise a new person at the table if they hit a flop like that with AK. Did you post UTG or UTG + 1?

[ajmargarine]

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I'm probably getting stacked here if beat. You just sat down and its hard to put someone on AA. It is also tempting for someone to raise a new person at the table if they hit a flop like that with AK. Did you post UTG or UTG + 1?

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Well, it wasn't my literal first hand at the table. First orbit or two.

Doesn't pushing allow AK off easy? And I'm not concerned with a diamond as I have redraws.

[z28dreams]

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I'm probably getting stacked here if beat. You just sat down and its hard to put someone on AA. It is also tempting for someone to raise a new person at the table if they hit a flop like that with AK. Did you post UTG or UTG + 1?

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In 4-handed, I don't think villain cares what position AJ was in....

[4_2_it]

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Doesn't pushing allow AK off easy? And I'm not concerned with a diamond as I have redraws.

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You should be concerned with a diamond turn because it will kill your action if you are ahead. If you call, you represent the flush draw.

On a non-diamond turn villain is likely to push which is fine, but if a diamond appears I doubt you get another penny out of him unless he has the flush (unlikely) or KK (in which case you are in BIG trouble).

[fishfather]

very much a judgment call. Against a certain type of player u are always beat here. Against another type you often are ahead.

If you want to maximize against the latter type, call and check raise turn.

[quarkncover]

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call, c/r turn ai

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If you didn't have A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif I might just push flop.

[Maulik]

Let's see what calling the flop and check raising all-in on the turn accomplish.

Pot control if villain checks behind. Otherwise, this allows villain to stack himself with Kx or possible worse. Additionally, villain is going to try and take you off of your hand, in the process if he's drawing will charge himself to hit his draw.

[mosuavea]

I like a call and c/r the turn all-in.

Hands like these are tough especially without reads and if villain has 44 or 55 I am going broke regardless.

Basically I want TP to stick around and pushing would possibly scare him off, unless he's a donk but we dont know that yet. The flush draw may kill the action, or may even have you drawing but you do have redraws and its a chance I am willing to take.

[Jamougha]

Make it $10 preflop, push flop. Standard first hand Aces tactics. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MaddHatter]

Without reading other players comments - I would put him on AK, or KQ-KT since he called the preflop raise. Can't give him credit for a K5 or K4, perhaps a set of 4's or 5's - I'd re-raise to 70 but that's just me.

[ajmargarine]

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Make it $10 preflop, push flop. Standard first hand Aces tactics. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Not far from the truth actually. I have it in my head that if I can push when first sitting at a table, I push. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. I think it gives me the image I want at the table, loose and stoopid. Meh, not sure if that is good or effective or what it really is. Here's what happened:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Hero ($98)
Button ($236)
SB ($93.05)
BB ($108.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $34</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $83 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $140.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins $140.50. </font>

[4_2_it]

I'll take half a buy-in profit with AA all day long. NH.

[Maulik]

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Not far from the truth actually. I have it in my head that if I can push when first sitting at a table, I push. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. I think it gives me the image I want at the table, loose and stoopid. Meh, not sure if that is good or effective or what it really is. Here's what happened:

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What other hands are you doing this with? I'm fairly certain you aren't moving all-in on the flop too often. Do you usually try to get it in on the flop? Play some more turns OOP, those are fun!

[ajmargarine]

Draws. Overpairs. Preflop. J8s. Nuts. Sets. Two pair. Bluffs.

[Go_Blue88]

I like how you played it. With no reads, I push here pretty much every time. You just don't know what turn cards are scary to villian and which might help him. Plus, if you just call that'll set off alarms in his head and he might shut down.

[Damontis]

Good play

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

I push this all day. Send a message.