25NL: Turning QQ into a bluff?

[mmbt0ne]

I don't remember much about this guy because he wasn't at the table long. I hadn't seen him go crazy before.

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MP ($2.65)
Hero ($30.90)
SB ($67.77)
BB ($41.35)
UTG ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.85) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($5.85) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>

[orange]

Looks fine to me. You can check the river behind if he checks. He probably calls this turn with K/images/graemlins/club.gifx or whatever.

[Shaddux]

I probably bet a little more for value. Looks fine though.

[Nuprin]

I would bet the flop to see where you are. I see three possibilities
1) he has an A and will call/raise
2) he has a club and will probably call (I find a lot chase this at 25NL)
3) he has a made hand and you're probably going to let go on the river if he bets assuming you both check the turn.
I would fold to any raise.

As played, I like the bet, I think you're ahead here more than you think. That's the reason I would have bet the flop in the first place.

[Isura]

It's not a bluff. No one will fold an A here. It's for value/protection imo.

[Colonel Kataffy]

I always bet this flop.

[VashJuggalo]

I think I would have put out a bet on the flop here, around 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot. If he does have an ace, he likely doesn't want this hand to continue much further unless he's got a high club kicker.

If he calls that and no club or otherwise bad card comes, I'd put in another bet, make him pay to see the end. If he does, I'd be looking to check behind on the river.

[mmbt0ne]

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It's not a bluff. No one will fold an A here. It's for value/protection imo.

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flop check feelings?

[Isura]

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It's not a bluff. No one will fold an A here. It's for value/protection imo.

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flop check feelings?

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I do both. I tend to bet with less reads and if my image is good. They will play their hand pretty straightforward then. But checking is fine too, but you can't take much heat so you hope that they check turn too. So I check against passive or decent players who won't donk with a wide range if I check flop.

[tubasteve]

I bet the flop because if you had AK in this spot you would bet to protect against the club draw.

[uminchu]

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I always bet this flop.

[/ QUOTE ] with kk i check bet turn

[Isura]

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I bet the flop because if you had AK in this spot you would bet to protect against the club draw.

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But you don't have AK here..

[n1nj4.br]

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I bet the flop because if you had AK in this spot you would bet to protect against the club draw.

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Very different situation. When u have AK in this spot, u bet to charge draws AND value worse hands (most likely AX).

In this case, if we bet, we will charge draws but other than that, its hard to get value from worse, since most of any typical villian's calling range on that flop would be AX.

I would check the flop and, as played, bet turn (because, NOW, we are more likely to extract value from worse hands, since we showed weakness on flop). But i would bet a little more.

[mmbt0ne]

Lesson learned: bet more on the turn.

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MP ($2.65)
Hero ($30.90)
SB ($67.77)
BB ($41.35)
UTG ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.85) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($5.85) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $15.35

Results in white below:
UTG shows K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG wins $15.35.

[avfletch]

I've just seen the results you posted up so this might be biased by that but I would bet more on the turn. You look very weak by checking the flop then betting &lt; 1/2 PSB on the turn and even a lot of donk villains will have a bash at a c/r against that.

[testaaja]

Too small bet. I cbet this on flop and then just check it down / fold. If you want to 'bluff' bet $5 on turn.