Joseph Hacem....the real deal?

[Equidae]

He played in two events last year, cashed in both, including a certain ME win. Now he's at the FT of the 6 handed event. Is this guy more of a real deal than anyone though or did any of you think he was already?

[cow_phunk]

6 handed, 8 left. ft?

[Equidae]

1
Russ 'Dutch' Boyd
$430,000

2
Daniel Negreanu
$390,000

3
Mirza Nagji
$315,000

4
Joseph Hachem
$250,000


5
Michael Goodman
$227,000

6
Jeff Knight
$187,000

7
David Soloman
$156,000

Peter Hassett
$120,000


As of 30 seconds ago

[robracing]

Early days, but he certainly seems at home at the WSOP.

He has earned less than $100k in tournament prize money since his ME Event win last year, which I am sure was well short of covering his expenses on the year.

Thank goodness for the Pokerstars sponsorship deal. Oh yeah, and the $7.5M!!

[citanul]

equid,

you appear to be missing the point.

the final table of this event only holds 6 players.

citanul

[Photoc]

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6 handed, 8 left. ft?

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This is a 6max Event. So they are probably 4 and 4 atm.

[Equidae]

I realize that. My bad. I'll kick myself in the nuts.

[Sponger.]

Citanul,

I could have sworn they moved together for one "final table" last year which had 9 players.

[Equidae]

This year they just did it with 7

[JokerArmy]

Well its official now...


Sat Jul 01 23:54:00 PDT 2006
Our Final Table Is Set

"The table folds around to Joseph Hachem who was on the button. Hachem pushes all-in for $230,000, David Soloman folds from the small blind and Mirza Nagji calls the all-in for his last $44,000 in chips. Nagji has the K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, Hachem has the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/club.gif. As the table stands up, Hachem asks "You think an ace is coming?". The flop brings Q /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif giving Nagji no help. The turn is the 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif meaning that Nagji is drawing to 2 outs going into the river since Hachem holds the 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif with three clubs on the board. The river is the J /images/graemlins/heart.gif and Hachem takes down the pot with Ace high. Nagji finishes in 7th place taking home $42,642, and Hachem now has $297,000 going into tomorrow's final table."

- JA

[CardSharpCook]

Congrats, Mike.

[archangel]

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5
Michael Goodman
$227,000


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= MLG, right?

[TheHome]

Hachem played alot online 5 10 -> 25 50nl before the main event and was a winning player in those games. So yes I would say he is a real deal.

[MyTurn2Raise]

I pretty much thought he was good already

[XXsooted]

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Citanul,

I could have sworn they moved together for one "final table" last year which had 9 players.

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the tv final table was just 6, layne flack, brunson, scotty nguyen, minh ly, 2 others

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5
Michael Goodman
$227,000


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= MLG, right?

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YES

[dicelumpY2005]

I thought of him being a solid player regardless of this 6-handed WSOP event... Now I am CERTAIN he is a solid player!

[Whitewash]

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Hachem played alot online 5 10 -> 25 50nl before the main event and was a winning player in those games. So yes I would say he is a real deal.

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Really? I never realized he played that high.

Then again, he did buy directly into the main event last year.

[BlackAces]

He should have won the Paris/Bally's Circuit event. He took a sick beat from Kido Pham five-handed.

He's solid.

[Fletch46]

In an interview recently Hachem said he was crushing the cash games at the WSOP and then he bought into the ME. Anyone know what level of cash games he was playing?

[TheRailbirds]

Why is everyone so quick to criticize when someone comes out of nowhere? He does not have to prove anything. He won 7.5 million + Poker Stars Sponsorship which you don't have have and I don't have. Let it go it doesn't matter.

mike
TheRailbirds

[boo5000]

Nobody criticized him at all. Not one person is this thread said he is riding a variance wave or is a bad player who got lucky. Everyone seems to agree he is solid.

[jkgunter]

FWIW, Hachem took down $25,850 in event 37 last year about a week before the ME started. That probably helped with the buy-in.

http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/tournamentresults.php?series=55&event=967

[Zinzan]

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Why is everyone so quick to criticize when someone comes out of nowhere? He does not have to prove anything. He won 7.5 million + Poker Stars Sponsorship which you don't have have and I don't have. Let it go it doesn't matter.

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WTF? Have you even read this thread?

Is this the "poker wisdom" we can find on your website? No, wait, against my better judgment, I took a look at your website. No original content, just an attempt to profit off of 2+2 content. Nice.

-Z

[NCAces]

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Why is everyone so quick to criticize when someone comes out of nowhere? He does not have to prove anything. He won 7.5 million + Poker Stars Sponsorship which you don't have have and I don't have. Let it go it doesn't matter.

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WTF? Have you even read this thread?

Is this the "poker wisdom" we can find on your website? No, wait, against my better judgment, I took a look at your website. No original content, just an attempt to profit off of 2+2 content. Nice.

-Z

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Yeah, I took a look as well.

Question: who owns the copyright on posts at 2+2? Can Railbirds do this?

Seems like a crappy thing to do for 2 reasons: (1) the first rule of 2+2 is that there is no 2+2; (2) should I ever post anything that even approaches poker wisdom (not likely, mind you) I don't want some numb nut profiting (in the form of rakeback, etc.) off my posts that I have freely shared with the 2+2 community.

Sorry for the hijack.

NCAces

[Larry David]

I have played 10/20 w/ Joe at B a few times and he seemed pretty solid to me. Nice guy also. Very down to Earth.

[Artsemis]

I agree with TheRailbirds actually in a sense.

Not directly with this thread in particular, but every time someone wins the ME or some other large tourney, it's automatically considered a "fluke" or "variance" by so many people until they win another to prove themselves.

[Zinzan]

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I agree with TheRailbirds actually in a sense.

Not directly with this thread in particular, but every time someone wins the ME or some other large tourney, it's automatically considered a "fluke" or "variance" by so many people until they win another to prove themselves.

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I agree, except, as you say, NO ONE in this thread did this.

But in general, it's true. I think it's reasonable, to some extent, to withhold judgment on a poker player because of just one great result (or, alternatively, one terrible showing). As more results come in (or earlier results are publicized), a player's stature may rise or fall.

-Z

[rothko]

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I agree with TheRailbirds actually in a sense.

Not directly with this thread in particular, but every time someone wins the ME or some other large tourney, it's automatically considered a "fluke" or "variance" by so many people until they win another to prove themselves.

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I agree, except, as you say, NO ONE in this thread did this.

But in general, it's true. I think it's reasonable, to some extent, to withhold judgment on a poker player because of just one great result (or, alternatively, one terrible showing). As more results come in (or earlier results are publicized), a player's stature may rise or fall.

-Z

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yes, but railbirds also didn't address this thread directly.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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I agree with TheRailbirds actually in a sense.

Not directly with this thread in particular, but every time someone wins the ME or some other large tourney, it's automatically considered a "fluke" or "variance" by so many people until they win another to prove themselves.

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I think many poker professionals encourage this thinking. The regular joe doesn't want to hear how many hours of play and study a player like Raymer or Hachem put in. They want to think that with the wits they have accumulated over their life, they can compete and take down the best with a few lucky breaks. It is good for poker pros to have that average joe 'dead money' in there.