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beachbum

06-28-2006, 07:27 PM

The following is from the STT forum FAQ sticky, assuming a good player:

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11s - 25% ROI
20s - 20% ROI
33s - 16% ROI
55s - 13% ROI
109s - 10% ROI
215s - 7% ROI

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Let's say they're pretty much equivalent to the choices at RIO:

125s - 25% ROI = $31
175s - 20% ROI = $35
225s - 16% ROI = $36
275s - 13% ROI = $36
325s - 10% ROI = $32.50
525s - 7% ROI = $36.75

Estimated average time per STT:

125s = 45 min
175s = 45 min
225s = 45 min
275s = 45 min
325s = 60 min
525s = 75 min

So hourly rate would approximate to:

125s = $31 * (60 min/45 min) = ~$41
175s = $35 * (60 min/45 min) = ~$47
225s = $36 * (60 min/45 min) = ~$48
275s = $36 * (60 min/45 min) = ~$48
325s = $32.50 * (60 min/60 min) = ~$32.50
525s = $36.75 * (60 min/75 min) = ~$29

Obviously, I don't think as you go up in level there will be diminishing returns, but these calculations are kind of an estimate, so you get the idea. How're my ROI estimates or time estimates, about right or way off? Are these satellites as soft this year as they were last year? And, how long is your downtime between satellites?

TIA.

Chris

oh, and I plan on being out there for a few weeks arriving 7/6 and would love to hang out with some 2+2'ers.

Slim Pickens

06-28-2006, 07:49 PM

Play at the $125's is equivalent to the Party $5+1 speeds at best. At the $500+ level, I doubt is above the $10+1 speed skill level. That being said, the structure is so fast that your ROI estimates are off, but I'm not sure by how much. It also really depends on your chopping skill as much as your poker-playing ability. Off the top of my head, 20% is probably a reasonable number given how troglodidic the play is and how aggressive the blind structure is. Also... 1.5 hours to finish one of these accounting for how often they run and how long it takes to start one up.

pineapple888

06-28-2006, 08:02 PM

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Play at the $125's is equivalent to the Party $5+1 speeds at best. At the $500+ level, I doubt is above the $10+1 speed skill level. That being said, the structure is so fast that your ROI estimates are off, but I'm not sure by how much. It also really depends on your chopping skill as much as your poker-playing ability. Off the top of my head, 20% is probably a reasonable number given how troglodidic the play is and how aggressive the blind structure is. Also... 1.5 hours to finish one of these accounting for how often they run and how long it takes to start one up.

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Dude, how are the donks f-ing up the chop??? Any strategies you're willing to share for getting a better chop for yourself than cEV=$EV?

Slim Pickens

06-28-2006, 08:09 PM

Channel FieryJustice when dealing. He ended up with almost exactly the same cash 4-handed as someone with about 50% more chips.

I imagine something like this in a $125, which pays out 2x$500 chips and $120 cash. You are down about 2.5:1 in chips. The trick is basically rounding up. "One double up and I'm back to even with you, and then I won't chop because I think I can win. How about we save by splitting the chips 1 and 1, then just play for the cash?"

I don't know if that would work, but the threat of sending some donk home empty-handed should be enough to command a premium. Anyone who will fold getting 3:1 will definitely f up a chop if you give them a chance.

pineapple888

06-28-2006, 08:17 PM

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Channel FieryJustice when dealing. He ended up with almost exactly the same cash 4-handed as someone with about 50% more chips.

I imagine something like this in a $125, which pays out 2x$500 chips and $120 cash. You are down about 2.5:1 in chips. The trick is basically rounding up. "One double up and I'm back to even with you, and then I won't chop because I think I can win. How about we save by splitting the chips 1 and 1, then just play for the cash?"

I don't know if that would work, but the threat of sending some donk home empty-handed should be enough to command a premium. Anyone who will fold getting 3:1 will definitely f up a chop if you give them a chance.

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Nice. I think I get it now. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

lwrunner103

06-28-2006, 10:28 PM

very nice beachbum....ive only played online.....are you serious that $500 buyin has the skill level of $11 on party??wow!

dealcloser

06-29-2006, 12:15 AM

I played 2 125s today. Chopped one heads up and busted 6th in the other. I'll be playing these everyday for the next few weeks. I was not to impressed with the play of others at the table, but did not see anything too donkish, just a lot of weak play.

Slim Pickens

06-29-2006, 02:11 AM

My current hourly in the 125/175's is about $400/hr now. Is this sustainable? I've played three, and that seems like a lot so I think it is.