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Old 11-21-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

Hows my line here?
Stage #988873356 Tourney ID 1920991 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $60 - 2007-11-21 04:39:46 (ET)
Table: 3 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 1 - MP+1 ($2470 in chips)
Seat 2 - HERO ($2125 in chips)
Seat 3 - BUTTON ($2340 in chips)
Seat 4 - SB ($2810 in chips)
Seat 5 - BB ($1345 in chips)
Seat 7 - UTG ($1955 in chips)
Seat 8 - UTG+1 ($1835 in chips)
Seat 9 - MP ($1945 in chips)
SB - Posts small blind $30
BB - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
UTG - Raises $180 to $180
UTG+1 - Folds
MP - Folds
MP+1 - Calls $180
HERO - Raises $720 to $720
BUTTON - Folds
SB - Folds
BB - Folds
UTG - Folds
MP+1 - Calls $540
*** FLOP *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
MP+1 - Checks
HERO -?Figured i was pot commited so i pushed and hated it
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

if you push that you're horrible imo
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

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if you push that you're horrible imo

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Thanks it felt wrong at the time so we check fold then?
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

Not going to defend my play at all, i believe i played it badly but my table image was pretty tight and fwiw the villain in the hand had shown he was capable of calling a raise and folding to a bet previously.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

There´s not much you can do here.

You reraised an early-position-raiser preflop and Villain called you. That probably means that he has a PP (like 99-QQ). If he had AA/AK he certainly would have reraised you for isolation. So maybe he has AQs, but unless Villain is a complete donk there are not much more unpaired hands that I could imagine.

Said this you are either way ahead (against a smaller PP) or way behind (against AQ). Check-fold is definitely too weak here. The pot has 1,710, your remaining stack is 1,405. Imho you´re committed anyway and destined to lose your stack is Villain has an A. On the other hand you don´t want to lose Villain when he holds something like QQ for example. So I made a "normal" contibet of about 700 and called a push.

By the way - you had UTG in a nice squeeze position, so the only way to prevent this situation would have been to reraise less pf, say making it 450. UTG would have been a hard decision and if he folded and Villain had called, you would have had a manageable pot with position.

While writing this I even come to the conclusion that the push is just not that bad (what was the buy-in?) as this massive bet could lead Villain with QQ to the conclusion that you have no Ace ... in the lowest stakes this might not function but in the middle/higher stakes it could even be a valid line. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Summarized - a check-fold is out of discussion and if you immediately push or bet-call the flop depends on your reads on your opponent.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

Thanks for your considered reply tackleberry.
The buy in was $20 fo/ about 100 runners
At the time with the way it played out i honestly didnt see what else i could do.
Cheers
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: yay me managed to turn pkt kings into a bluff

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Check-folding is horrible IMO...
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