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Old 05-28-2007, 09:14 AM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

Villain has run at 30/15/3 over 26 hands. From his play he seems to be very aggressive post flop and a thinking player preflop. My image is Tagish.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.5/$1.00 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $98.00
BB: $100.00
UTG: $174.710
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $98.5</font>
BTN: $81.34

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00, BTN calls $5.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $76.34</font>, 1 fold......Hero?

Pokerstove says:
Hand 0: { 9d9h } 49.814%
Hand 1: { TT-77, AhJh, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhQh, KhJh, QhJh, JhTh, Th9h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 7s6s }
50.254%

Anyone have a problem with me betting the flop? According to Pokerstove I should make this call. Anyone disagree?

Should I include sets in his range? I just don't see a player pushing here with a set.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:22 AM
Pete H Pete H is offline
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

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Should I include sets in his range? I just don't see a player pushing here with a set.

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What do you see him doing with a set? Call with that board?

He'd be fool to do anything else than push with a set on that board.

Also you need to add two pair hands and made straights in his range.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

He calls a lot preflop, and doesn't raise particularly much. Here, he's 5x UTG and c/rai on flop. I would probably say AQhh or overpair, so either way IMO you're a 10:1 underdog if you call here or a 45:55 underdog to the two overs+FD, and yo'ure calling off a LOT of ur stack to win a fairly smallish pot where you're probably screwed. So fold
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:28 AM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

I think you are leaving quite a few hands off his range here (JJ, QQ, 78, a million 2 pair hands).

I also don't understand why you think he wouldn't push a set here.

I think its pretty close between calling and folding, without the read I don't mind folding.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

hmmm...yeah you're right. I was thinking the overbet was excessive for 2 pair or set type hands but given his stack size the push is still logical for those holdings.

Hand 0: 40.715% { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 59.285% { TT-44, AhJh, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhQh, KhJh, QhJh, JhTh, Th9h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 7s6s, 65s, 54s }

So I need to call $66.34 to play for a pot of $102.84. We're not getting enough to warrant the call so this is an easy fold?
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

FOLD you are likely crushed...
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

I don't know how much utg usually raises preflop but if this is his standard raise i rr pre flop here. If this x5bb raise is bigger than normal I can call thinking he has a big pp and I will get paid if I flop a set. As played I fold on flop.

EDIT; Oh, just saw u have 26 hands on the guy...
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

I think his range is good but has you crushed more often than not, I think this is a clear fold.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

You forgot to include the made straight in his range. I fold, by the way.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Villain pushes, poker stove says call but I think fold with 99

and why is there no big PPs in his range???...agree w/ everyone this is a clear fold
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