200nl flopped set OOP

wcaines · #1 04-30-2007, 02:34 PM

villain is 48/6/1

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MP ($189.30)
Button ($521.95)
SB ($201)
BB ($122.20)
Hero ($203.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, Button calls $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($33) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, MP folds, Button calls $24, BB folds.

Turn: ($81) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40.
I'm not sure at all about this turn bet size. I think I can fold if this villain shoves over me right? But I don't really have a good plan at this point.

River: ($161) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ? now what? Can I/Should I value shove this?

I'm concerned about how to proceed on the turn and river

shpanko · #2 04-30-2007, 02:37 PM

Ugh I hate these spots. I don't think I like a shove. I'd either bet/fold 50 ( which I don't really like) or maybe check call a reasonable bet. This might be bad advice though because i suck in these situations so I'll defer to better posters

Casper05 · #3 04-30-2007, 02:40 PM

80, call a push (puke first) vs this villian. Squeeze value from Qx and other 2 pair hands.

yoshi86 · #4 04-30-2007, 02:57 PM

blocking bet for 1/4 to 1/3 pot

ibraveheart · #5 04-30-2007, 02:59 PM

you really need to bet more on the flop and turn in these situations, then the river is much, much easier.

wcaines · #6 04-30-2007, 03:07 PM

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you really need to bet more on the flop and turn in these situations, then the river is much, much easier.

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how so?

w33ktight · #7 04-30-2007, 03:09 PM

what does your bet on the turn accomplish

ibraveheart · #8 04-30-2007, 03:09 PM

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you really need to bet more on the flop and turn in these situations, then the river is much, much easier.

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how so?

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when i raise 22 and flop a set like this on a board that has flush and straight draws in a multiway pot OOP i like to bet closer to the pot, get a few more dollars in. On the turn you 1/2 potted it- were you planning to fold to a raise from this type of player? i hope not. i'd bet more there in case he has a lone club, and call a raise if it comes because of the pot size. if he just calls your larger turn bet river is an easy 1/2 pot shove to get called by all kinds of worse hands.

shpanko · #9 04-30-2007, 03:10 PM

so that you're pot committed. I think the flop bet is fine but if you're going to bet the turn I'd bet 60 and fold to a shove. When he doesn't raise it's an easy shove on the river with the amount of money you have left in front of you.

cbloom · #10 04-30-2007, 03:13 PM

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80, call a push (puke first) vs this villian. Squeeze value from Qx and other 2 pair hands.

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I think the call a push part is very wrong vs. someone this passive. Maybe $66 and fold to a push.