Top 2 deep vs LAG

HEK · #1 06-29-2006, 12:32 AM

Villian is super lag at 57/35. He's been calling nearly every one of my PFR's, continuation bets, everything. He's been an all-around pain in ass. Oh and he's been doing a bunch of calling or betting but not much raising from what I can recall.

I haven't played back at him at all although I have fired a couple of failed 2nd barrels vs him. In general I'm a little misbehaving vs him but not very much. I'm just card dead.

What's my turn line?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($8955.10)
Button ($770)
SB ($2942)
Hero ($3833.50)
UTG ($2167)
MP ($4342.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
2 folds, CO raises to $75, 2 folds, Hero calls $55.

Flop: ($160) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $125, CO calls $125.

Turn: ($410) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $388, CO raises to $786

#2 06-29-2006, 12:38 AM

you are afriad of sets and 9T

i think I push here and hope to get paid by a worse hand

calling can put u in crappy spot OOP if river is an ace, 9, T or [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

g-p · #3 06-29-2006, 12:46 AM

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i think I push here and hope to get paid by a worse hand

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you don't think stacks are too deep to push?

THAY3R · #4 06-29-2006, 12:49 AM

I think I would call and then check call any on river.

HEK · #5 06-29-2006, 12:51 AM

grim,

I thought about pushing, calling and leading, calling and check/calling. But if I push/raise what hands will call that I beat? AQ? He's lag but I donnu if he's stupid.

#6 06-29-2006, 12:53 AM

depends how loose he really is and how loose you have been playing. if your image is pretty maniacal you can get away with a push and get called by smaller two pairs or maybe even TPTK even this deep

the thing about calling this minraise is that you can be in a real tough spot on river if a "bad card comes"

buy for simplicity's sake, let's say the river is a red duece.

what are you gonna do there?

MDMA · #7 06-29-2006, 12:56 AM

I like a call and then lead river for 1500.

captZEEbo · #8 06-29-2006, 12:59 AM

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I like a call and then lead river for 1500.

[/ QUOTE ]and fold to a raise?

MDMA · #9 06-29-2006, 01:50 AM

Well, even though pottodds would of course be very tempting, I don't think he would bluffraise a blank river w/ anything I'd beat nearly enough times to really justify a call, unless he IS stupid. I think at best I'd be looking at a split in those cases. If this is a guy constanly bluffing, floating flops and raising turn w/ air etc, then I really dislike a turn 3-bet, and that only leaves river. If he's prone to be firing again, I definately check/call most cards. I'm torn between calling and leading river and calling and checking river. I'm definately not 3-beting against this kind of opponent unless he calls down w/ [censored] as well when you show REAL strength and from the description it doesn't sound that way.

whitelime · #10 06-29-2006, 07:19 AM

I call and lead river for about 1k-1200.