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Old 06-14-2006, 11:38 AM
Miyogi Miyogi is offline
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Default Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

I've read on here about the concept of using folding equity to make an otherwise unprofitable play +EV. Can you guys tell me if this is a good example of that or a good waste of chips? Villain is basically unknown (is that a problem for this type of play?) other then that he has seems to have an aversion to limping, his VP$IP and PFR are nearly identical.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $357.11
Hero: $94.06
Button: $135.53
SB: $108.20
BB: $156.05

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $15.5</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($33, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $78.06</font>,
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

Reload to a full stack.

Then fold. PF.
And the Flop.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

With his reraise villian is telling he has a big pair - AA or KK probably. Unknown villian is a BIG problem. Unless you know villian is capable of laying down his overpair you cannot make this move.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

Look like you dont have any fold equity here unless he is on a complete bluff.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

this has a lot of fold equity if villian is a thinking 2p2er.

but i agree with Jam. Fold PF, fold the flop.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

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this has a lot of fold equity if villian is a thinking 2p2er.

but i agree with Jam. Fold PF, fold the flop.

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I think you mean me...
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

this wasnt the good exapmle you were hoping for. a good example is a hand like a combo draw where someone bets and you push because it is most likely even money. so if called you will win half the time. when the other guy folds your +EV is the dead money in the pot. so its basically a win win for you.

a mid pair which is now openended with 2 overs on the board does not achieve this
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:39 PM
PayoffWiz PayoffWiz is offline
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

You don't have fold equity because villain is not folding any big pair here for $48 more.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

you should get called everytime by his over pair...guy probably didnt even hesitate
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:07 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: Good example of folding equity to make a play profitable?

Don't see what the problem with this is play is. We have an aggressive villain who could have AK or loads of random [censored]. Hero goes all in and if villain happens to have an overpair/set then we have 8 outs.

I don't expect him to fold an overpair, but if OPs range is AK/QQ+ then this is surely +EV.
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