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Old 11-07-2007, 07:00 PM
euroglot euroglot is offline
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Default Re: 0.5-1 full house hand.....3bet turn or call

I was considering a raise preflop but since I didn't have any stats I just checked.

Why bet the flop? He might just fold and with a checkraise you can lure them into the pot?..

'I'll give a hint. If he has a Q what does he do if you raise?
If he has a 97o what does he do if you raise?'

I know where you come from xylo but I think he would call down with a lot of hands too.
All I can say is I called down, he also bet the river...and I still won the hand. And if I played it differently I would have won more.

What do you guys think he had?
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: 0.5-1 full house hand.....3bet turn or call

AA
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: 0.5-1 full house hand.....3bet turn or call

I'd probably just bet the flop. How do we know that villain is going to bet our hand for us? Too high a risk of a check through when we just check the flop.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:29 PM
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I don't know I like checkraising better. If I bet he could just fold AJ. With a checkraise he might bet and call a checkraise, then he maybe get's an ace or a draw etc. So then you make more value. If he checks behind doesn't matter I just bet and he probably would call down with that same AJ thinkin I'm bluffing. But that are just my thoughts.

You're very close Sushiglutton [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]....he had KK.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: 0.5-1 full house hand.....3bet turn or call

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I don't know I like checkraising better. If I bet he could just fold AJ.

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Since opponent limped in, I tend to not give him credit for such a good hand as AJ. In fact, after the flop we flop such a monster that we want to extract value. We can't expect a hand like 98s or KJ to bet it for us. You lost some value there. Hands like PP or even some Ax values call you down and Qx (x = good kicker) raises you -> more value.

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With a checkraise he might bet and call a checkraise, then he maybe get's an ace or a draw etc. So then you make more value.


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and then again, he might not bet at all. Which he did here.

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If he checks behind doesn't matter I just bet and he probably would call down with that same AJ thinkin I'm bluffing. But that are just my thoughts.


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Look, your line is perfect if you know villain is aggro maniac. Then you can expect him to bet into such a dry board, but your post said "no read".

For the actual question on the 3bet or calldown, I actually don't know. In the heat of the moment, I would've probably 3-bet, because of the check on the flop, but I don't think a calldown is bad either. This is a HU situation, where a read would really help.

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You're very close Sushiglutton [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]....he had KK.

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ZOMG. SN? j/k.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 0.5-1 full house hand.....3bet turn or call

never 3bet ever
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:54 AM
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I don't know I like checkraising better. If I bet he could just fold AJ. With a checkraise he might bet and call a checkraise, then he maybe get's an ace or a draw etc. So then you make more value. If he checks behind doesn't matter I just bet and he probably would call down with that same AJ thinkin I'm bluffing. But that are just my thoughts.

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I like how you think everything will work perfectly for you if you check-raise. It shows a true depth of analysis.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:46 AM
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You're very close Sushiglutton [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]....he had KK.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Yeeah! Looked like a double sloooow play.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:09 PM
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I don't know I like checkraising better. If I bet he could just fold AJ. With a checkraise he might bet and call a checkraise.

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LOL?

So let me get this straight...

if you lead (basically repping a Q, a 2, or any PP) he will fold AJ.

BUT,

if you c/r (basically repping a 2, with an occasional Q), he is going to call the raise w/ AJ?

Please explain your thought process there.
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