Don't come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)

[kerowo]

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[censored] Seahawks

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Seriously.

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So far this upgrading to HD for sports has been filled with pain. Although I did get a little giddy when I hooked my PowerBook up to the TV...

[bennyhana]

Welcome back variance. My old friend.
Full Tilt 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: (22.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 8d Ad (flush, ace high).
Hero has 7h 7s (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins 24.25 BB. </font>

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Full Tilt 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, BB calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7h 6c (straight, eight high).
Hero has 4h 4s (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: BB wins 15.25 BB. </font>

[Wetdog]

speaking of variance

7 Card Stud High ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

Seat 2: $15.90
Seat 3: $41.95
Hero: $17.90
Seat 5: $2.20
Seat 6: $25.60
Seat 7: $40.20
Seat 8: $10

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Vil 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in

4th Street - (3.20 SB)

Vil 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

5th Street - (3.60 BB)

Vil 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls $1.40 and is all-in
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (11.00 BB)

Vil 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___all-in
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

River - (17.00 BB)

Vil 3: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___all-in
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds

Total pot: (23.00 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $23 Main pot $8.75. Side pot $13.75. | Rake $0.50

Vil 3: [Qd Kc Kh 9c Th Jh Ah] (a straight, Ten to Ace)

Hero: [9h 7s 8h Js Ts 2d Tc]

Seat 5: [Jc 5c 5h 3h 3c 2s Kd]

</font>

[JavaNut]

Beat: Lost $2000 in three hands playing PLO
Brag: It was playmoney
Variance: Some players had 9000BB stacks, oh and I got to hold a 10 foot Boa Constrictor yesterday. It was rather sedate, couldn't quite understand why those darn trees it was in constantly was moving it about though.

[Xylocain]

I did my tilt-win a dollar at 0.02/0.04 routine and decided to donate it along with another 1.50 to the NL people (this is another first), I never played NL cash outside play money (ergo I have no idea how, what do I know ... everyone else was playing every hand). Stacked someone with AA on the 10th hand or so... then this little nugget. WTF is wrong with me.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.78
CO: $2.53
Button: $1.17
Xylocain: $5.59
BB: $3

Pre-flop: (5 players) Xylocain is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.04</font>, Xylocain calls, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.16, 4 players)
Xylocain checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $0.44</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Xylocain raises all-in $5.55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $2.52</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls all-in $2.05</font>.
Uncalled bets: $2.59 returned to Xylocain.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.1, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $7.63, Sidepot 1: $0.94)


River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($8.1, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $7.63, Sidepot 1: $0.94)


Results:
Final pot: $8.1
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed Jd 9d</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Xylocain showed 7c Qc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO mucks Kc 2h</font>

[JavaNut]

If you are rather sure that noone is going to reraise, your call preflop is perhaps not bad, the flop looks ok to me, quite a few times you will cash in against made straights or even a A or K of clubs not improving, but you do need to get it all in at the flop as you did.

[OrigamiSensei]

X, at the risk of talking strategy in NC you played the hand fine. The pre-flop call of the min-raise is a no-brainer. If your opponents' stack sizes had been larger I might not have pulled the all-in move but given that the largest opposing stack was 6x the flop bet an all-in move seems by far the best way to protect your very vulnerable hand. You can't afford to pussyfoot around with a slowplaying call since your hand is very beatable or a 3x re-raise since your opponents will be pot committed and all the rest of the money will go in anyway on the turn with your situation perhaps being much worse after that card falls. Far better to try to take the hand down immediately and if your opponents call the large bet they won't be getting proper odds to chase.

[Xylocain]

Thanks for the strat replies Java and Origami [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] maybe I'll try out NL again sometime. The quality of players at the lowest level there seems like 1/5 of the quality of your average 0.02/0.04 LHE player [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

but I still think my biggest leak my horrendous river play in that hand which is the same kind of mistake that manifested in my KK&lt;JJ hand ... ^^^

[Gib]

Ozi, knockon, Eskimo/monk, Snitch (if ur bout) &amp; other Aussies, what r ur picks for today's race?

[OziBattler]

I dont gamble on horse races cos u know, gambling is bad mkay. But I will go in the office pool, draw some skanky 500-1 shot and continue my lifetime streak of never ever winning anything in a melbourne cup office pool.