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Old 10-12-2007, 04:39 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: Every [censored] time

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I hate when threads degenerate into debates about interpretations of poker tracker stats. Basically my read is that villain is clearly on the passive side, my sample size is about 300-400 hands.

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Then you should fold the turn.

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My questions are basically
(1) do I have enough outs to peel and
(2) If I call the turn and the river is a blank i'll be getting ~10-1 to call, is that enough to pick off random retardation that he might have?
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Some stat discussion

I've found aggression factors fairly useless for the most part. I like to have flop aggression up though because it can tell you if someone likes to overplay the flop. The other thing about aggression factor is that an overaggressive player can have the same aggression factor as a raise or fold player. The stat isn't going to tell you which one it is. You might see an aggression factor of 3 and think, well I can call down here now because he's likely full of it, but he might actually just be the type of player that raises when he hits and folds when he doesn't. Also, a small aggression factor doesn't mean a guy won't make weird bluffs and value bets with 2nd pair.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:27 AM
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The other thing about aggression factor is that an overaggressive player can have the same aggression factor as a raise or fold player. The stat isn't going to tell you which one it is.

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This is the other reason why I like the aggression frequency better.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:37 AM
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The other thing about aggression factor is that an overaggressive player can have the same aggression factor as a raise or fold player. The stat isn't going to tell you which one it is.

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This is the other reason why I like the aggression frequency better.

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So an overaggressive player would have a somewhat high aggression frequency, whereas a raise or fold player is going have an aggression frequency around 90%. That sounds good to me. Street by street aggression frequency would also be more useful than aggression factor.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:15 PM
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The other thing about aggression factor is that an overaggressive player can have the same aggression factor as a raise or fold player. The stat isn't going to tell you which one it is.

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This is the other reason why I like the aggression frequency better.

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So an overaggressive player would have a somewhat high aggression frequency, whereas a raise or fold player is going have an aggression frequency around 90%. That sounds good to me. Street by street aggression frequency would also be more useful than aggression factor.

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No. A raise/fold guy who sint raising that much but have the same AF as an overaggor guy will have a lower aggr freq.

I have been experiementing a bit and it looks real promising using the frequency instead.
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