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Old 10-19-2007, 04:53 PM
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I think it would be very prudent to have one of the other tournament players corroberate that the hand histories are accurate for the cards they held -- by matching them up with hand histories that they have, such as in PokerTracker. Even if an AP source has agreed it's accurate, it would be a quick step to add something meaningful to the pile of facts.

I don't believe this type of corroberation has happened.

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It has.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

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Pretty sure it's now time to take a look at the other recent big wins at Absolute Poker.

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Has anyone looked into the Bad Beat Jackpot winners? HUGE cash there.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

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Pretty sure it's now time to take a look at the other recent big wins at Absolute Poker.

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Has anyone looked into the Bad Beat Jackpot winners? HUGE cash there.

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How would the ability to see your opponents' cards help you win a BBJ?
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

That would involve manipulation of the cards methinks.

That's a separate issue from our known knowns.

I'm thinking specifically the other suspicious looking mtt winners in the last month or so.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

hes sayin simply that it would be plausible that the bbj was rigged as another way to rinse/outright steal funds, kinda off-topic and paranoid but sadly you cant dismiss it given the outright sheistyness of the situation
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

ABC News story:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...500&page=1

Not much new here that I saw on a quick scan. Most interesting thing is that Quebec Provincial Police are investigating.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

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Pretty sure it's now time to take a look at the other recent big wins at Absolute Poker.

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Has anyone looked into the Bad Beat Jackpot winners? HUGE cash there.

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For that you'd need control of the board or knowledge of what cards are coming. There evidence seems to indicate the cheaters didn't know cards before they were dealt.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:00 PM
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Who would be dumb enough to believe this explanation?

Let me see if I understand this correctly, a computer geek had been engaging in dialog with the company, claiming that he could cheat the system. Of course management never believed him so he decided to prove them wrong.

Now instead of just showing them one example of the super user account - saying here look at this super user account I can see the hole cards, someone can cheat us. Instead he decided to undertake a 3-4 month cheating program.

This involved cheating all the high stakes players out close to $1 million dollars. Cheating the big tourney, cheating the absolute dream package, etc etc.

All this to prove a point?

This is so beyond the realm of believability I can't even fathom anyone dumb enough to believe it.

I can't wait to hear more from the geniuses at AP.

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dont forget he used someone else's account (a higher up at AP no doubt) and faked an IP to another high up at ap (actually former, bc he doesnt work for them anymore)
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:00 PM
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That would involve manipulation of the cards methinks.

That's a separate issue from our known knowns.

I'm thinking specifically the other suspicious looking mtt winners in the last month or so.

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in levitt's earlier blog entry about this last month he mentioned working with prof. statisticians/poker players to create a better method of stopping cheaters, any1 actually know him?

He probably has some good insights at identifying more subtle data trends intended for more intelligent cheaters.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

If there was ever a company to cheat the BBJ, its Absolute.
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