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Old 11-30-2007, 05:42 AM
DanielDayLewis DanielDayLewis is offline
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Default $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

Villain in "Thank_u_sir". Intelligent 28/21 LAG. We've been 3betting eachother a lot and calling light. He steals like every chance he gets and I 3bet him tons but he keeps [censored] stealing...

Can I get any value on the river? How do you like my line overall?

Party Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $2,138
CO: $3,255.55
Hero (BTN): $3,048
SB: $470.15
BB: $2,379

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $66</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $220</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $154

Flop: ($470) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($470) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $333</font>, Hero calls $333

River: ($1,136) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:16 AM
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no value, nh
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

nh
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

check and win, the only possible reason to bet would be if he was so batshit you wanted to call a raise. when he check/calls you will win much less than half the time.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

the only reason to bet the river would be to induce a bluff check raise. but i would only make this play if i had a good read on my opponent. otherwise, checking behind is ok.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:23 PM
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how can he c/r bluff if you dont bet?!!?!?!


...but you're going to check behind and win.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

yeah, thinking about that induce a bluff idea. Assuming he never flat calls (with better or worse) he has to be bluffing &gt;50% of the time for it to be +EV.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:31 AM
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the only reason to bet the river would be to induce a bluff check raise. but i would only make this play if i had a good read on my opponent. otherwise, checking behind is ok.

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Old 12-01-2007, 09:44 AM
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checkcheck
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: $10/20 3bethand vs LAG

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yeah, thinking about that induce a bluff idea. Assuming he never flat calls (with better or worse) he has to be bluffing &gt;50% of the time for it to be +EV.

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but he does sometimes flat call with better, and never with worse, so he actually has to be bluffing like 75% of the time he raises and raise a pretty significant amount of the time. in other words, don't actually bet.
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