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Old 11-18-2007, 09:47 AM
crystalallen crystalallen is offline
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Default I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the time.

I've been reading here for a couple of months and trying to learn, etc.. now I'm getting pushed out of pots, I'm paranoid, I'm forgetting that people do actually bluff sometimes.

I'm in a hand, I feel it, I know it, but I lay it down because I'm trying to be sensible and play right.

That's all. Just had to get that off my chest.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the time.

call/push next time and see if you were bluffed.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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call/push next time and see if you were bluffed.

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Ha. I've been shown a few bluffs lately.

Here's one from yesterday that I caught. Who knows how many I haven't

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t120 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t3785)
Hero (t1765)
SB (t3450)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t480</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2065 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1285.

Flop: (t3890) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t3890) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3890) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3890

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks 7h (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 9h 9s (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins t3590. BB wins t300. </font>
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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call/push next time and see if you were bluffed.

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Ha. I've been shown a few bluffs lately.

Here's one from yesterday that I caught. Who knows how many I haven't

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t120 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t3785)
Hero (t1765)
SB (t3450)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t480</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2065 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1285.

Flop: (t3890) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t3890) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3890) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3890

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks 7h (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 9h 9s (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins t3590. BB wins t300. </font>

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you are calling/pushing here because you have a MONSTER, not because you think villian is bluffing.

post some where you have marginal hands and need villian to be bluffing for calling to be good.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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call/push next time and see if you were bluffed.

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Ha. I've been shown a few bluffs lately.

Here's one from yesterday that I caught. Who knows how many I haven't

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t120 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t3785)
Hero (t1765)
SB (t3450)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t480</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2065 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1285.

Flop: (t3890) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t3890) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3890) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3890

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks 7h (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 9h 9s (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins t3590. BB wins t300. </font>

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Please tell me that it never even crossed your mind to fold your pocket 9s to the villian's re-raise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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Please tell me that it never even crossed your mind to fold your pocket 9s to the villian's re-raise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Well, a few minutes before I had read a post on 2+2 where hero was advised to fold his 9s, so yes, it crossed my mind.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:10 PM
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post some where you have marginal hands and need villian to be bluffing for calling to be good.

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Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t5560)
BB (t1535)
Hero (t1905)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t550) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, BB calls t100.

Turn: (t750) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, BB calls t350.

River: (t1450) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t835 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t835.

Final Pot: t3120

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kd 9h (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ac Ts (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t3120. </font>

I guess this sort of counts:

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t6960)
Hero (t2040)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t600) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t900</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t1600

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t1600. </font>

My paranoia

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP (t1600)
CO (t1175)
Button (t1840)
SB (t1285)
BB (t1795)
Hero (t1305)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t105</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t105, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t75.

Flop: (t330) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t330) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t250</font>, Hero calls t250, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1690 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, Button calls t1190.

River: (t3960) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3960

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has 7d Ah (straight, five high).
BB has Ac Qh (straight, five high).
Outcome: Button wins t1980. BB wins t1980. </font>

Sometimes paranoia pays off

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
MP (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, MP calls t20.

Flop: (t130) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t130</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t260</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1460 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t1460 (All-In)</font>.

Turn: (t3180) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3180) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3180

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP has 7c 4c (straight, eight high).
CO has 8s 8d (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: MP wins t3180. </font>
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

I only read the first two there, but those first two were played so bad i had to sit down before i hurt myself.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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I only read the first two there, but those first two were played so bad i had to sit down before i hurt myself.

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The title of this thread should be changed. OP is definitely not "playing 2+2 poker".
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: I\'ve been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the t

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I only read the first two there, but those first two were played so bad i had to sit down before i hurt myself.

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What should I have done?
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