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Old 08-16-2007, 03:49 AM
Chaos_ult Chaos_ult is offline
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Default Top pair faces full pot river bet

Villain is 24/17/1.4 over 175 hands. Havent really noticed anything particularly interesting about him.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $121.30
BB: $313.75
UTG: $113.40
Hero (MP): $386.75
CO: $211.10
BTN: $304.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $10.00, SB folds, BB calls $8.00, UTG folds

Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $22.00</font>, BTN folds, BB calls $22.00

Turn: ($77) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($77) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $74.00</font>

Pot Size: $151.00
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

I'd call. I think he has a busted draw or 66-88 33% of the time. I don't really think a bet that big is for value very often given the board and how little strength you have shown.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

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Old 08-16-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

As played it is a call.
I would bet turn for ~40 and fold if he raises there or if he calls then check river.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

Betting the turn will more or less remove this kind of decission on the river. It will also charge QJ and perhaps get value from several one pair hands.

WHat I am trying to say is that a turn bet does a far better jobb of defining his hand on river he can have either a strong hand or a busted draw if you bet turn he will call with draws and c/r stronger hands leaving you with a much clearer decission.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

i don't understand all the calls here. I don't think a PSB on the river here is a weaker 10 or a busted draw. Someone's trying to get paid.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

Why didn't you bet turn?
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

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i don't understand all the calls here. I don't think a PSB on the river here is a weaker 10 or a busted draw. Someone's trying to get paid.

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A PSB doesn't get called very often in a spot like this though. If villain has a monster he wants to bet an amount that can get called by 66-88 or a decent ten. When I see big river bets after the turn checks through from OOP villains, when they have a strong hand it's a hand that missed a checkraise on the turn, and there basically aren't any hands that fit that bill that make sense.
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

I don't really have a good explanation as to why I didn't bet the turn. I suppose I was attempting to keep the pot small, and keep hands like 77-88 in.

In retrospect I like betting the turn better.


anyway, I called and villain showed 9T

bleh
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Top pair faces full pot river bet

your boned here alot i think given the size of his bet.
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