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Old 07-26-2007, 01:36 AM
Chaos_ult Chaos_ult is offline
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Default KK turn checkup

Should I be bet/folding this turn? Check/call? C/R?

villain is 28/10/1.1 over a very small 58 hand sample.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $201.25
Hero (BB): $226.00
UTG: $35.60
MP: $82.00
CO: $46.55
BTN: $186.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $2.00, CO folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, MP folds, BTN calls $10.00

Flop: ($27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, BTN calls $20.00

Turn: ($67) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ...
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: KK turn checkup

Bet/call push.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:42 AM
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You really think this is a semi-bluff that often?
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: KK turn checkup

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You really think this is a semi-bluff that often?

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Why can't it be an AJ?
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:44 AM
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Because that'd be a terrible line imho.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: KK turn checkup

Bet the turn. Possibly folding to a raise. Then shove a good river.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:48 AM
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Because that'd be a terrible line imho.

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Well its not like most players take great lines.. he could be afraid of straight / flush and decide to just push here. Against most unknowns with no history I would call here.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:50 AM
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Just looking at those stats, and short of any other reads, I would bet and probably fold to a raise.. I expect this type of player to just call again with AJ, or a pair+draw like T9.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:05 AM
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Because that'd be a terrible line imho.

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Well its not like most players take great lines.. he could be afraid of straight / flush and decide to just push here. Against most unknowns with no history I would call here.

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While players with these stats are normally pretty bad, it is because they call too much and raise to little. A raise from this player should def. be considered, since he is really, really passive.

For me a lot of this is going to come down to feel/situation, how am i perceived at the table, have I been tight/or loose. A lot of external factors go into this hand to help make this decision here and they are really dependent on the Hero.

In Vacuum, this is a bet/fold for me against this kind of villain, to much crap from that board hit his hand range and really give my Overpair problems.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:09 AM
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Ok, I know where you are coming from, all I am saying is players like this like to raise and get their money in when scare cards come and they are holding TPTK, if it was dry board I would definately agree folding is great, but I wouldn't feel comfortable easily letting go to push in a situation like this.
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