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Old 08-09-2007, 02:36 PM
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I got to see him pitch in a rookie league game when he was trying to get himself back together. Seems like a good guy; I had no idea he was trying to make it back as an outfieilder.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:38 PM
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sure his OBP sucks, but a guy who a .270/.316/.570 guy has good value

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But that's AAA numbers. What's the expected translation to the majors? If it's a 10% reduction he'd be .243/.285/.523. That provides what looks like a decent OPS (.808), except that OBP is probably worth 3x SLG. So his EQA is likely to be below league average. That's not good for a corner outfielder who struggles defensively.

For comparison, Jack Cust is .263/.402/.521 this year in the Majors. Last year he was .293/.467/.549 in AAA. And if his hitting ever falls off he could never play the outfield for anyone. As soon as Piazza is moved Cust is a full time DH.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:44 PM
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What's the expected translation to the majors?

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well, it's a difficult projection I think. he's been a full time OF for 2 years. so while you normally wouldn't be excited about a relatively 1 dimensional player making his MLB debut at 28, this is clearly an outlier case.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:49 PM
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I think you can usually count on about a 15% reduction, but that varies a ton from player to player.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:54 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:09 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.

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If he could catch or play a decent 2b/SS his OBP wouldn't hurt so bad. I'm just struggling to see where he fits as a successful MLB player unless he improves significantly. Cust's OBP makes him a fine DH, but I can't really see Ankiel successful in that role without a much better OBP.

I sure hope he does make it somehow.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.

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And yet Ryan Howard is what, 27, and in his second full year?
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:14 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.

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And yet Ryan Howard is what, 27, and in his second full year?

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I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with this post, but thayer DID say "tend".
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:21 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.

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And yet Ryan Howard is what, 27, and in his second full year?

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Please.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:22 PM
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Big time sluggers with poor OBP skills and high strikeout numbers tend to translate very poorly in the majors.

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And yet Ryan Howard is what, 27, and in his second full year?

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believe he said 'poor OBP' not 'great OBP'

i could see how you got confused
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