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Old 06-03-2007, 10:23 PM
JaneTheHot JaneTheHot is offline
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Default Variance Please Help

Before this variance occured, I was winning 1-2 ring game limit poker for 40k hands at 2.8 bb's/100. However, even though I was winning I did not give up my poker education. I kept reading new books and re-reading good material. However, recently I am suffering huge variance. It seems that I cannot win any longer. Please post some advice. Thanks!


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Here are some examples. These are some that occured today when I was playing my 1k hands session.

POKERSTARS GAME #10256586810: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 19:57:47 (ET)
Table 'Dresda' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Oligarch ($87.75 in chips)
Seat 2: UtopBuzzsaw ($53.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PeaceDeath ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 5: samodai ($65.50 in chips)
Seat 6: hevero2244 ($23 in chips)
Seat 7: JaneTheHot ($40 in chips)
Seat 8: briguy1969 ($75.25 in chips)
Seat 9: j jablonsky ($110.25 in chips)
Seat 10: Jurgy ($15.75 in chips)
Jurgy: posts small blind $0.50
Oligarch: posts big blind $1
Magic Wizz: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ad Ac]
UtopBuzzsaw: folds
PeaceDeath: folds
samodai: folds
hevero2244: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
briguy1969: raises $1 to $3
j jablonsky: folds
Jurgy: folds
Oligarch: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
briguy1969: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [5h Ks 3d]
JaneTheHot: bets $1
briguy1969: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5h Ks 3d] [9h]
JaneTheHot: bets $2
briguy1969: raises $2 to $4
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [5h Ks 3d 9h] [Jd]
JaneTheHot: checks
briguy1969: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
briguy1969: shows [Kh Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
briguy1969 collected $22.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.50 | Rake $1
Board [5h Ks 3d 9h Jd]
Seat 1: Oligarch (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: UtopBuzzsaw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PeaceDeath folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hevero2244 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: JaneTheHot mucked [Ad Ac]
Seat 8: briguy1969 showed [Kh Kc] and won ($22.50) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 9: j jablonsky (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Jurgy (small blind) folded before Flop


POKERSTARS GAME #10256545191: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 19:55:13 (ET)
Table 'Callisto II' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: samodai ($56.50 in chips)
Seat 2: hevero2244 ($41.75 in chips)
Seat 3: pathog3n ($33.25 in chips)
Seat 4: JaneTheHot ($114.50 in chips)
Seat 5: tp12680 ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 6: BFO_2005 ($39 in chips)
Seat 8: TheApprentic ($62.75 in chips)
Seat 9: britleadfoot ($46 in chips)
Seat 10: Rhashark ($78.75 in chips)
MyLuckyGirls will be allowed to play after the button
pathog3n said, "lol"
TheApprentic: posts small blind $0.50
britleadfoot: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ad As]
pathog3n said, "poon"
Rhashark has timed out
Rhashark: folds
Rhashark is sitting out
samodai: folds
hevero2244: calls $1
pathog3n: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
tp12680: folds
BFO_2005: calls $2
TheApprentic: folds
britleadfoot: calls $1
hevero2244: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Td 3h 8c]
britleadfoot: checks
hevero2244: bets $1
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
BFO_2005: calls $2
britleadfoot: folds
hevero2244: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Td 3h 8c] [2h]
hevero2244: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $2
BFO_2005: raises $2 to $4
hevero2244: calls $4
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Td 3h 8c 2h] [6s]
hevero2244: checks
JaneTheHot: checks
BFO_2005: bets $2
hevero2244: folds
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BFO_2005: shows [8s 8d] (three of a kind, Eights)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
BFO_2005 collected $29.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.50 | Rake $1
Board [Td 3h 8c 2h 6s]
Seat 1: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hevero2244 folded on the River
Seat 3: pathog3n folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JaneTheHot mucked [Ad As]
Seat 5: tp12680 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BFO_2005 (button) showed [8s 8d] and won ($29.50) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 8: TheApprentic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: britleadfoot (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: Rhashark folded before Flop (didn't bet)


POKERSTARS GAME #10253348228: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 16:31:03 (ET)
Table 'Lycomedes' 10-max Seat #10 is the button
Seat 2: polochips ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Nexus6mAA ($36 in chips)
Seat 4: MJHmale ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Tobbax ($36 in chips)
Seat 6: squallA964 ($105.25 in chips)
Seat 8: samodai ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot ($50 in chips)
Wild Niņo will be allowed to play after the button
polochips: posts small blind $0.50
Nexus6mAA: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ac Ad]
MJHmale: folds
Tobbax: folds
squallA964: folds
samodai: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
polochips: folds
Nexus6mAA: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8h 5s]
Nexus6mAA: bets $1
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
Nexus6mAA: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ah 8h 5s] [6c]
Nexus6mAA: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $2
Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $4
JaneTheHot: raises $2 to $6
Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Ah 8h 5s 6c] [7d]
Nexus6mAA: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nexus6mAA: shows [7s 9s] (a straight, Five to Nine)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
Nexus6mAA collected $27.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28.50 | Rake $1
Board [Ah 8h 5s 6c 7d]
Seat 2: polochips (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Nexus6mAA (big blind) showed [7s 9s] and won ($27.50) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 4: MJHmale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tobbax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: squallA964 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot (button) mucked [Ac Ad]


POKERSTARS GAME #10253330655: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 16:30:03 (ET)
Table 'Scorpius IV' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: samodai ($24 in chips)
Seat 2: trachta ($37 in chips)
Seat 4: hooked177 ($234.50 in chips)
Seat 5: JaneTheHot ($65.75 in chips)
Seat 6: mhorseman ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Dices_74 ($72.25 in chips)
Seat 8: DonBlech ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 9: kflb ($94 in chips)
Seat 10: --HGII-- ($40 in chips)
trachta: posts small blind $0.50
DeMoriaan: is sitting out
hooked177: posts big blind $1
--HGII--: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ks Kc]
DeMoriaan leaves the table
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
mhorseman: folds
Dices_74: calls $2
DonBlech: folds
kflb: folds
--HGII--: calls $1
samodai: raises $1 to $3
trachta: folds
hooked177: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
Dices_74: calls $2
--HGII--: calls $2
samodai: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [3h 9c 5h]
JaneTheHot: bets $1
Dices_74: calls $1
--HGII--: calls $1
samodai: raises $1 to $2
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $3
Dices_74: folds
--HGII--: calls $2
samodai: calls $1
*** TURN *** [3h 9c 5h] [4s]
JaneTheHot: checks
--HGII--: checks
samodai: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
--HGII--: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [3h 9c 5h 4s] [Jh]
JaneTheHot: checks
--HGII--: checks
samodai: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
--HGII--: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
samodai: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
samodai collected $36.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37.50 | Rake $1
Board [3h 9c 5h 4s Jh]
Seat 1: samodai (button) showed [Ah Ad] and won ($36.50) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: trachta (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: hooked177 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: JaneTheHot mucked [Ks Kc]
Seat 6: mhorseman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dices_74 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: DonBlech folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: kflb folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: --HGII-- folded on the River


POKERSTARS GAME #10252849511: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 16:02:00 (ET)
Table 'Ehrsson' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JaneTheHot ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Dices_74 ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 3: ToJoBo123 ($36.50 in chips)
Seat 4: gshep ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 5: samodai ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 6: davymax ($70 in chips)
Seat 7: mikehorse ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 8: DonBlech ($44.75 in chips)
Seat 9: uptomynek ($12 in chips)
Seat 10: draftman100 ($79.25 in chips)
samodai: posts small blind $0.50
davymax: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Kd Ks]
mikehorse: calls $1
DonBlech: folds
uptomynek: folds
draftman100: calls $1
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
Dices_74: folds
ToJoBo123: folds
gshep: folds
samodai: folds
davymax: folds
mikehorse: calls $1
draftman100: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Th Ad Qd]
mikehorse: checks
draftman100: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $1
mikehorse: calls $1
draftman100: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Th Ad Qd] [2h]
mikehorse: checks
draftman100: checks
JaneTheHot: checks
*** RIVER *** [Th Ad Qd 2h] [Qh]
mikehorse: checks
draftman100: checks
JaneTheHot: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikehorse: shows [Ah 9d] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
draftman100: mucks hand
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
mikehorse collected $10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.50 | Rake $0.50
Board [Th Ad Qd 2h Qh]
Seat 1: JaneTheHot mucked [Kd Ks]
Seat 2: Dices_74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ToJoBo123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gshep (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: samodai (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: davymax (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mikehorse showed [Ah 9d] and won ($10) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 8: DonBlech folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: uptomynek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: draftman100 mucked [Jc 9c]


POKERSTARS GAME #10252590816: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 15:47:17 (ET)
Table 'Minerva' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: BigSmooth13 ($38.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Jet Fluid ($36.50 in chips)
Seat 3: davymax ($3.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Oligarch ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 5: jo-tk ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 6: fortune1 ($40 in chips)
Seat 7: samodai ($39 in chips)
Seat 8: JaneTheHot ($118.25 in chips)
Seat 9: briguy1969 ($112.75 in chips)
Seat 10: dtrst ($27 in chips)
JaneTheHot: posts small blind $0.50
briguy1969: posts big blind $1
fortune1: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ks Kh]
dtrst: folds
BigSmooth13: folds
Jet Fluid: raises $1 to $2
davymax: folds
Oligarch: folds
jo-tk: folds
fortune1: folds
samodai: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $3
briguy1969: folds
Jet Fluid: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
JaneTheHot: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [8s 3s Js]
JaneTheHot: bets $1
Jet Fluid: raises $1 to $2
JaneTheHot: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8s 3s Js] [2s]
JaneTheHot: checks
Jet Fluid: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [8s 3s Js 2s] [3d]
JaneTheHot: checks
Jet Fluid: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jet Fluid: shows [As Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
Jet Fluid collected $21 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22 | Rake $1
Board [8s 3s Js 2s 3d]
Seat 1: BigSmooth13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Jet Fluid showed [As Ah] and won ($21) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: davymax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Oligarch folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jo-tk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: fortune1 folded before Flop
Seat 7: samodai (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JaneTheHot (small blind) mucked [Ks Kh]
Seat 9: briguy1969 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 10: dtrst folded before Flop (didn't bet)


POKERSTARS GAME #10253348228: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 16:31:03 (ET)
Table 'Lycomedes' 10-max Seat #10 is the button
Seat 2: polochips ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Nexus6mAA ($36 in chips)
Seat 4: MJHmale ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Tobbax ($36 in chips)
Seat 6: squallA964 ($105.25 in chips)
Seat 8: samodai ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot ($50 in chips)
Wild Niņo will be allowed to play after the button
polochips: posts small blind $0.50
Nexus6mAA: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ac Ad]
MJHmale: folds
Tobbax: folds
squallA964: folds
samodai: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
polochips: folds
Nexus6mAA: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8h 5s]
Nexus6mAA: bets $1
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
Nexus6mAA: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ah 8h 5s] [6c]
Nexus6mAA: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $2
Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $4
JaneTheHot: raises $2 to $6
Nexus6mAA: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Ah 8h 5s 6c] [7d]
Nexus6mAA: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nexus6mAA: shows [7s 9s] (a straight, Five to Nine)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
Nexus6mAA collected $27.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28.50 | Rake $1
Board [Ah 8h 5s 6c 7d]
Seat 2: polochips (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Nexus6mAA (big blind) showed [7s 9s] and won ($27.50) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 4: MJHmale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tobbax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: squallA964 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot (button) mucked [Ac Ad]


POKERSTARS GAME #10249581212: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 12:49:03 (ET)
Table 'Lycomedes' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Tzen1 ($39 in chips)
Seat 2: robby195 ($17 in chips)
Seat 3: angelmartin ($32 in chips)
Seat 4: phlopen ($11 in chips)
Seat 5: hotMccoffee ($70.50 in chips)
Seat 6: NRGJ ($40 in chips)
Seat 7: Markomanne ($39 in chips)
Seat 8: - Zoe - ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 9: samodai ($40.50 in chips)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot ($50.50 in chips)
hotMccoffee: posts small blind $0.50
NRGJ: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [9h 9d]
Markomanne: folds
- Zoe -: folds
samodai: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
Tzen1: calls $2
robby195: folds
angelmartin: folds
phlopen: folds
hotMccoffee: calls $1.50
NRGJ: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Td 3s 9c]
hotMccoffee: checks
NRGJ: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $1
Tzen1: folds
hotMccoffee: calls $1
NRGJ: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Td 3s 9c] [8d]
hotMccoffee: checks
NRGJ: checks
JaneTheHot: bets $2
hotMccoffee: raises $2 to $4
NRGJ: folds
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Td 3s 9c 8d] [2c]
hotMccoffee: bets $2
JaneTheHot: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hotMccoffee: shows [Qc Jd] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
JaneTheHot: mucks hand
hotMccoffee collected $22 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23 | Rake $1
Board [Td 3s 9c 8d 2c]
Seat 1: Tzen1 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: robby195 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: angelmartin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: phlopen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hotMccoffee (small blind) showed [Qc Jd] and won ($22) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 6: NRGJ (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: Markomanne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: - Zoe - folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: JaneTheHot mucked [9h 9d]


POKERSTARS GAME #10253113894: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/06/03 - 16:17:22 (ET)
Table 'Ehrsson' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JaneTheHot ($51 in chips)
Seat 2: Dices_74 ($39.75 in chips)
Seat 3: ToJoBo123 ($35.75 in chips)
Seat 4: gshep ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 5: samodai ($36.75 in chips)
Seat 6: badronald ($16 in chips)
Seat 7: pkuchie ($30.25 in chips)
Seat 8: DonBlech ($45 in chips)
Seat 9: uptomynek ($3.50 in chips)
Seat 10: draftman100 ($83 in chips)
pkuchie: posts small blind $0.50
DonBlech: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JaneTheHot [Ah Jh]
uptomynek: calls $1
draftman100: folds
JaneTheHot: raises $1 to $2
Dices_74: folds
ToJoBo123: calls $2
gshep: folds
samodai: folds
badronald: folds
pkuchie: folds
DonBlech: folds
uptomynek: raises $1 to $3
JaneTheHot: calls $1
ToJoBo123: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [5s Qs Qd]
uptomynek: bets $0.50 and is all-in
JaneTheHot: calls $0.50
ToJoBo123: folds
*** TURN *** [5s Qs Qd] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [5s Qs Qd Jc] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
uptomynek: shows [Ac 2c] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
JaneTheHot: shows [Ah Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)
JaneTheHot collected $11 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.50 | Rake $0.50
Board [5s Qs Qd Jc Js]
Seat 1: JaneTheHot showed [Ah Jh] and won ($11) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 2: Dices_74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ToJoBo123 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: gshep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: samodai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: badronald (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pkuchie (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: DonBlech (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: uptomynek showed [Ac 2c] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 10: draftman100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Again, these are some of the hands...

Please suggest something.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:36 PM
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anyone?
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:58 PM
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:30 PM
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thanks for the great response... just waht I needed [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:53 PM
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jane, everyone goes through downswings, and they suck.
take a break from poker if you need to.
go down a limit if the money bothers you.
play fewer tables and get better reads.
analyze your play afterwards. if you're really getting 2 outered there's not much you can do, obviously, and you know that already, but if you start tilting and making bad calldowns or stupid bluffs afterwards, that is fixable.

good luck pulling out of it. post lots of hands on here. respond to people's posts. keep improving.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:55 PM
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also, without turning this into a competition, there are lots of players (myself included) who've played way more hands and had much bigger swings, both up and down. the more you play, the more you understand variance and realize it comes with the territory.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:27 AM
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This post is incredibly terrible educate.

My advice: find a softer game.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:11 AM
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I'm down 150BBs in my last 3k hands. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:46 AM
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I was amazed by the variance I had myself as well at the 1/2 Limit game at PokerStars especially since 0,50/1 was easy to beat for me, ofcourse with ups and downs. 1/2 so far breaks even after 17K hands, which also means I need a little more hands before I can really say something about my play. I also already adjusted some small things and this seems to work (was down about 150 BB before). I'm also down to 4 tables, where I played 6 to 8 at 0,50/1, I want to be confident about my play first before I open more tables or move up.

I think the huge variance comes with Limit/FR and a lot of Tight opponents. I also notice it really matters what times you play, since sometimes it's just full of regulars which all seems to break even but you won't find an edge there yourself.

I don't see a lot of people really winning on these limits, I guess most regulars just play 1/2 because they like it and all the better players are either moved up, playing 6 max or moved site. Which means you have a really small edge vs the regulars, who you might beat, but this will come with big variance.

I will check my PokerTracker for stats on you and might see some things. But I don't think I really have a lot of hands to say something other then that I have the same sort of graph.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: Variance Please Help

Thank you for your responses. What is a reasonable downswing that I should expect?
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