Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400

[Keystone]

I was pretty sure this was a spew, but wanted to see what you guys thought.

[AAismyfriend]

BTG never ever has AK here after flat calling from the SB. He would definately play 44 like this though

[mikeJ]

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To be honest, I thought the turn raise was spewy, but Im repping such a big hand here that there are very few hands he can call with. His turn lead for pot was unusual for him too.

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Unless you two have a very specific history with each other where he knows you won't make bad plays like you made above, then I doubt he's every folding 2 pair or better ever to you.

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I have played a lot with him and I am almost positive he folds 2 pair here, but not better obviously. From his point of view, I likely have AA, KK, TT

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Even when he folds two pair, I think you'll run into a lot of trouble when he has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He is getting 3 to 1 after you shove. I can definitely see him calling w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x:spade. The other main concern I'd have is that he has QJ, while you should be somewhat concerned about a set on turn, I think a set will very often 3 bet the flop. If he, in fact, folded two pair, then I think your shove just turns from "terribly spewy" to "spewy". Again, I think it's asking a lot of villain to fold two pair for you.

[Keystone]

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To be honest, I thought the turn raise was spewy, but Im repping such a big hand here that there are very few hands he can call with. His turn lead for pot was unusual for him too.

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Unless you two have a very specific history with each other where he knows you won't make bad plays like you made above, then I doubt he's every folding 2 pair or better ever to you.

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I have played a lot with him and I am almost positive he folds 2 pair here, but not better obviously. From his point of view, I likely have AA, KK, TT

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Even when he folds two pair, I think you'll run into a lot of trouble when he has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He is getting 3 to 1 after you shove. I can definitely see him calling w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x:spade. The other main concern I'd have is that he has QJ, while you should be somewhat concerned about a set on turn, I think a set will very often 3 bet the flop. If he, in fact, folded two pair, then I think your shove just turns from "terribly spewy" to "spewy". Again, I think it's asking a lot of villain to fold two pair for you.

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Good posts mike

[philipsaurus]

from my play with him, he folds aces up here almost never.

[mikeJ]

Results? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[cts]

Really hate the turn play, you just are never going to be able to fold out ANYTHING here.

[viciouspenguin]

HI QJ

[captainwacky]

Flop play is fine, but what do you think he folds on the turn after leading for the pot? Everything got there in one way or another, and I think it'd be hard for him to fold two pair.

[Kilillan]

that guys a spewmonkey and I wouldn't be surprised if he called with AQ let alone any two pair