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Old 11-10-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Question about a maybe important concept in Omaha

I am a Holdem player and just learned omaha, so sorry in advance if this is a silly question


Ok, so i watched the following Hand on Full Tilt:


Full Tilt Poker Game #4134500979: Table Eginton (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 20:59:45 ET - 2007/11/10
Seat 1: xdhaj ($40,398)
Seat 4: Niki Jedlicka ($85,482)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($26,398)
Seat 6: KObyTAPOUT ($106,038)
David Benyamine posts the small blind of $200
KObyTAPOUT posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
xdhaj folds
Niki Jedlicka raises to $1,400
David Benyamine calls $1,200
KObyTAPOUT folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Qh Td]
David Benyamine checks
Niki Jedlicka checks
*** TURN *** [6c Qh Td] [4d]
David Benyamine bets $3,200
Niki Jedlicka calls $3,200
*** RIVER *** [6c Qh Td 4d] [8h]
David Benyamine bets $9,600
Niki Jedlicka raises to $24,000
David Benyamine calls $12,198, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $2,202 returned to Niki Jedlicka
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Niki Jedlicka shows [Ts Jd Ad 9d] a straight, Queen high
David Benyamine is sitting out
David Benyamine mucks
Niki Jedlicka wins the pot ($53,194) with a straight, Queen high


What i was wondering:

- Niki checked behind on the flop, thus Benyamine´s for leading the turn is decently wide.
- Niki has a Monster-draw (OESD+FD) and a very good equity.

My Question:

Looking back at the Hand i thought repoting it on the turn might have been a good play for niki, since he should have a decent amount of fold equity.
But he chose to call, and this actually pretty quick. I wonder if benya pays him off a lot, because niki shouldnt be able to win the pot as a bluff, since he actually hits the usual "bluffing outs" like the flush etc and is not able to bluff them.

What is the thought process behind calling vs repoting in this spot?

thx.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Chaoslord Chaoslord is offline
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Default Re: Question about a maybe important concept in Omaha

(im xdhaj)

niki just mixing up his play with checking behind here, im sure he bets it like 90% of the time.
benyamine wasnt capable of folding anything today so i think its a good play from him to just call and try to hit his hand.

Seat 5: David Benyamine (small blind) mucked [9c 7c Kh 8s] - a straight, Ten high
if you care.

i think to mix up your play is an important concept but only at high limits against strong opponents, otherwise its better to just maximize equity
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:39 PM
Gene Paulson Gene Paulson is offline
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Default Re: Question about a maybe important concept in Omaha

Nah he is only betting that the other doesn't have much and the draw is defensive the caller on the river just didn't trust his "read" if you could have one on the web. In a high tight hand you are always calling down to much or needing reads; caughting that last card is only being "Rivered" and luck a pot size turn raise would have averaged a fold from that execellent player.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Question about a maybe important concept in Omaha

Another little n00b question on the side:

Why do most of u 200\400 guys buy-in with like 8-16k instead of making a full buyin. after a while u guys are 100bb deep anyway. I dont really get that. I mean, if i am not rolled i play lower. Or is there a distinct advantage buying in short?
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Question about a maybe important concept in Omaha

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Another little n00b question on the side:

Why do most of u 200\400 guys buy-in with like 8-16k instead of making a full buyin. after a while u guys are 100bb deep anyway. I dont really get that. I mean, if i am not rolled i play lower. Or is there a distinct advantage buying in short?

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Rolf Slotboom explains this well in his Book,
The whole book is basically a shortstack Omaha strategy.
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