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I have a very hard time folding to minraises
I know that it's very situational, but whenever I am minraised from a villain, I find it much harder for me to fold unless I'm holding complete air. Let's say I hit mid-pair or top pair [censored] kicker on the flop and I C-bet it out, and villain minraises me. Am I always going to fold this?
I find it weak if I'm going to fold to a minraise every time if I'm unsure if I have the best hand. Also, when it's a short stack doing it I find it even harder since most of the time I have the notion that shortstacks are complete donks (unless they have VERY VERY tight stats). So what the [censored] is the deal with minraises? |
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
I have a similar problem but today I got taught a lesson a few times actually. I would flop tpgk, c-bet and get min raised and obviously call (first mistake). Then I would continue on the turn and call a big turn bet (second mistake). I think in general I have to learn to start folding my one pair hands to unknowns on dry boards for a min c/r.
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
I definitely agree with you that if I face big resistance on the turn, it's probably best to let the hand go.
HOWEVER, I think it's inevitable to be facing a bigger turn bet if you plan on calling the min raise and checking the turn. I can't really see a blocking bet being a good idea on the turn since I think it'll get raised most of the time. The way I see it is that minraising doesn't scream "STRENGTH STRENGTH STRENGTH" but at the same time it's not a big enough bet for someone to bluff with. |
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
No, Im not talking about the turn, the main point here is the flop. I know how to play turns against raises, but I just dont give people credit on flops for some reason. I have to give more credit to min c/r but Im not sure about min raises. Like if I am MP and bet, and get min raised by the CO. I think thats a different situation just because a c/r in general is so much stronger than a plain raise, but Im still a little lost honestly.
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
the problem is that in my experience a minraise can either mean monster or air.
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com SB ($11.05) BB ($10) UTG ($15.45) MP ($3) Hero ($9.90) Button ($9.75) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $0.35. Flop: ($1.05) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $1.05 (All-In). Turn: ($7.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> . River: ($7.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $7.60 Results MP has 2s 7s (two pair, sevens and twos). Hero has Td Tc (one pair, tens). Outcome: MP wins $6.15. Hero wins $1.45. Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Button ($9.20) Hero ($13.95) BB ($12.15) UTG ($19.80) Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, BB calls $0.35, Button folds. Flop: ($1) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.3</font>, Hero calls $0.65. Turn: ($3.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.6</font>, Hero calls $1.60. River: ($6.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, BB calls $2. Final Pot: $10.80 [/ QUOTE ] villain shows AQ minraises can mean so many different things. I always take a note on what a villain minraises with |
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
thats where reads come in, like you said.
i fold to the minraises with weaker hands until i know what hes doing it with |
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
In general against an unknown, what does everyone do against a min raise with tpgk. I think I have finally realized that if I get min c/r I can fold, but still unsure about min raised.
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Re: I have a very hard time folding to minraises
Minraise isn't that annoying to me. They are always laying a good price when you were semibluffing. In most cases you just don't have anything and fold. When it's a close decision, well, it's cheaper right? You want them to bet more so you know to fold, sounds like the problem. Plus it kinds of clues you in that they aren't very good although this isn't always correct.
Minraisers preflop are not annoying at all IMO, I love that. Plz to be giving me good odds to call from BB. Thanks. edit: I think I need to minraise more. Because I never do it. Clearly has to be a good move sometimes... |
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