Retarded Stuper Hand. Fold on any street?

[ASPoker8]

Why do ppl want to fold the turn? Seems bad
I just call down since he's betting nothing

[mikeJ]

Too bad you can't rep a boat.

You're getting like 2320 to 320, so like ~7.25 to 1? Meh you only beat 88/TT, and maaybe PFR shows up w/ A high occasionally. I think you may not even be good the 12% or so you need. I don't think it matters much either way, whether you called or folded river.

PF is good, I def think calling is better than reraising, you don't quite turn your JJ into 22 if you reraise, but it plays pretty similarly.

Flop seems fine. I think leading turn for like 1/2 pot is probably best. PFR is going to shutdown very often, so if he has like overs, he's going to get a free shot @ a 6 outer, and maddieann is going to be checking behind a very large % of time. A 1/2 pot lead is small enough where a medium pp can call you, but also ensures people don't take off a free card w/ 6-11 outers when your opponents don't intend to put in another chip w/ those hands unless they improve to beat you. Also, you rarely get bluffed. Anyways, that was just an idea. I think your overall line is ok.

[durrrr]

c

[d2themfi]

anybody prefer a lead on the flop? as played i would call

[Hattifnatt]

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reraising preflop vs an utg raiser and 3 callers this early is a very bad idea imo.

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explain. what hands would you rr here?

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if you reraise, you have to fold to a 4-bet. also, you are not likely to stack someone off if you 3-bet unless for ex someone is just calling you with a big pp and you flop a set (or the obv set over set).

depends on style etc. but my main concern in general this early is to to hold to my stack and not making high varianse plays.

in general I reraise with AA, KK and maybe QQ and AKs/AK in this spot.