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Old 09-05-2007, 08:00 PM
Nichomacheo Nichomacheo is offline
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Default $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

This is early in the match, so I'll post the hands that lead up to it and you can make your own decision:

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Button (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, Button calls t140.

Flop: (t400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: t400

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BB (t1300)
Hero (t1700)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t320</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t140

#3: He folds SB

#4: I fold SB

#5: He folds SB

#6: I raise 3x, he folds.

#7:

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Button (t1330)
Hero (t1670)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, Button calls t80.

Flop: (t200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero says hello...</font>

What are you doing here and why?
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

did you just change the action on my hand? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

I'm folding here .

If he's semibluffing then that's ok cause it's correct for him to bluff me out on occasion . If I push all in , I'll only get called by a better hand , but I'll probably only win 525 about close to half the time .
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

If you overthink this hand you're going to kill yourself.

A shove is terrible in my mind, I'd rather see a call than a shove but I think the correct play is to fold here.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

I think this is way more manageable to analyze better than you guys have done so far.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

Then you should have worked it out on your own and not posted it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

Ryan, I know you can do much better than "shove = bad, call &gt; fold". Same with you other fellas. Take a minute and really think about whats going on in the hand.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

On a scale of 1-10 , how often would you guess that you are beat?

On a scale of 1-10 , how many better hands do you think he would fold if you shove ?

On a scale of 1-10 , how often is he semibluffing here ?

You have no choice but to guess these answers based on feel and experience .
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

OK lets play a game. Pretend you're a world class poker player. Say you're Phil Ivey or Daniel Negreneau. You show them these hands and you ask them... what do you think about this spot? How would they analyze it?
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: $110 HUSNG -- Most interesting hand in a while...

You are both playing what seems like an aggressive pf game. His limp call looks very strong to me. This can mean a big ace, but his range is so wide here it is impossible to put him on anything.

On the flop, there are a ton of hands that beat yours. obviously any ace, AA, 1010, 88, and 10 8. Villain can have one of those, or be on one of the numerous draws on the board.

As played im assuming he has an ace and that im beat
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