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Old 08-20-2007, 03:09 PM
mappedout mappedout is offline
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last nig

FWIW in my local casino (harrahs kc) not only will the dealer not tell you what the players stacks are he wont tell you whats in the pot either (unless its pot limit). However all the dealers are required to tell you to stack your high denom chips up front and they do enforce that rule when you get deep enough for it to matter... I believe it is more a thing that will change from room to room and even dealer to dealer but the overall consensus is in cash games you need to determine stack sizes yourself, you can certainly ask a player and alot of them will give you an approximate correct answer but outside of that your on your own.

Once i had a guy sitting right next to me ask me how much i had left after putting in a sizable bet and i didnt answer, he then asked the dealer who didnt answer, after that he got visibly upset and started leaning over and actually did touch the top of one stack of my chips in an effort to "finger count" the stacks i guess. I queitly pushed his arm back by the forearm and said "dont touch my chips!" while smiling and he smiled back. Everything was fine (he eventually folded once he realized i had him just covered) and went back to normal. I think it has to do more with the two parties involved and how they handle it together, all it takes is one person acting like an ahole and the $hit hits the fan b/c the other person doesnt want to loose face at the table.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:59 AM
SNOWBALL SNOWBALL is offline
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last night?

which dealer was it?
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last nig

Another player touching my chips warrants much more than a slap on the hand.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last nig

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You are entitled to a clear view of the chips. You are also entitled to have the high denomination chips be clearly visible. You are also entitled to have the chips stacked in a manner that someone looking at them can tell how deep a player is. Traditionally if someone asks "how deep are you" they get an answer that is close to how many chips a player has. Poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen. If you find yourself unable to conduct yourself as a lady or gentleman you should leave the casino.

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I'll quote this for MFing Truth.

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"Should" and "truth" have little relevance in most situations. As in this one - his last 3 statements are pleasant, but completely irrelevant in this situation.

The house staff should be lined up and kicked in the nuts. It's so freaking ridiculous.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last nig

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Another player touching my chips warrants much more than a slap on the hand.

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No, seat 3 was hiding his chips with his hands (goof number 1 - rule violation). Then he tells the player to "count it" (goof number 2 - completely ambiguous command when no words are ncessary at all).

And, all because the house is completely clueless (they lost a paying customer because of their ineptitude.) I agree, if they make money, it's in spite of themselves. When the market lulls, they'll be the ones getting laid off and complaining about the economy, and taking my tax dollars for their unemployment.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:19 PM
Army Eye Army Eye is offline
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Default Re: floor does nothing about guy slapping another player @ HP last nig

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Once i had a guy sitting right next to me ask me how much i had left after putting in a sizable bet and i didnt answer, he then asked the dealer who didnt answer, after that he got visibly upset and started leaning over and actually did touch the top of one stack of my chips in an effort to "finger count" the stacks i guess. I queitly pushed his arm back by the forearm and said "dont touch my chips!" while smiling and he smiled back. Everything was fine (he eventually folded once he realized i had him just covered) and went back to normal. I think it has to do more with the two parties involved and how they handle it together, all it takes is one person acting like an ahole and the $hit hits the fan b/c the other person doesnt want to loose face at the table.

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I'm sure you were well within your rights, but I'd just like to know - why not just tell the guy how much you have?
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:58 PM
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Poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen. If you find yourself unable to conduct yourself as a lady or gentleman you should leave the casino.

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Clearly you've never played at hollywood park. You can't count on the dealer or floor for anything at all, you are on your own, and god forbid if you should need a ruling. If you get in an argument with a regular, forget about it, the floor will side with them every time. I honestly believe that this poker room is the most like a wild west card room that is in operation today. I don't even like walking away from my chips for a pottie break. It's seriously in bad shape. Isn't there an organization that audits these places to make sure that they are running a tight ship? If an inspector came to this casino for a full work day, i'm sure they would see at least a dozen arguments that were handled improperly.

All that being said, I find the games looser than anywhere else in LA (or outside of vegas) so I have to put up with it. I watch my ass though.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:28 PM
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If an inspector came to this casino for a full work day, i'm sure they would see at least a dozen arguments that were handled improperly.

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It's a crying shame that California has a moratorium on new cardrooms, and that cardrooms described like this consume one of the existing licenses.

On my one poker trip to LA I didn't make it to HG, and it sounds like I didn't miss much.
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