100NL - JJ overpair in BvB

ciro bonano · #1 11-22-2007, 03:41 PM

Carlos Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($105.85)
SB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($100.00)</font>
BB BB ($83.50)
UTG ($120.65)
UTG+1 ($97.00)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to 2.50, BB calls 2.00.

Flop (6.00) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 4.00, BB raises to 10.00, Hero ...

Villain just sat down. Crai turn or 3bet now? To how much?

Ranma4703 · #2 11-22-2007, 03:44 PM

3bet to 35-40ish, push turn.

Schmitty 87 · #3 11-22-2007, 03:51 PM

fwiw I make it $4 preflop.

I would call the flop, don't really like the idea of getting it in yet. Turn line I'm not so sure. $26 in the pot with $67 back, I suppose I'd bet/call reasonably safe cards (2s,3s, non club high cards, board pairing cards) and check/fold to significant heat on others. Could be awful though, looking forward to opinions on turn play.

Schmitty 87 · #4 11-22-2007, 03:53 PM

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3bet to 35-40ish, push turn.

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ya this seems so tempting because it's easy. the thing is even if we're good on the flop it seems like we're racing with a lot combo draw hands. or is the point that since the board is so drawy now that we need to get the money in before it gets worse?

scatt_man · #5 11-22-2007, 04:01 PM

i would 3bet here .... too many scare cards could hit the turn that would shut you down ....

Ranma4703 · #6 11-22-2007, 05:14 PM

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3bet to 35-40ish, push turn.

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ya this seems so tempting because it's easy. the thing is even if we're good on the flop it seems like we're racing with a lot combo draw hands. or is the point that since the board is so drawy now that we need to get the money in before it gets worse?

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On the turn he isn't putting in any more money with a worst hand a lot of the time, because so many crappy cards can come off. Any high card, any club, lots of low cards - too much of the deck sucks for us, and too much of the deck sucks for him too, making him unwilling to put more money in.