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Re: weird donk
if i instaraise and he still 3bets, no, i don't think it's close.
if i take my sweet time to raise and he 3bets, i start scratching my head. what do others think? |
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Re: weird donk
i think waiting maybe makes a 1% difference overall in terms of how often you're good
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Re: weird donk
hmm, you think instaraising doesn't change the probability that he will attempt a 3bet bluff? that's not a rhetorical question, i really want to know.
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Re: weird donk
fwiw i thought you were talkin about it the other way around. when i said 1% i meant i think you're good more often when you wait than when you instantly raise. i think most people see instant raises as strong and delayed raises as possibly weak, ie. "HMM LET ME SEE...... HM... OK I GUESS I RAISE LOL."
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Re: weird donk
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fwiw i thought you were talkin about it the other way around. when i said 1% i meant i think you're good more often when you wait than when you instantly raise. i think most people see instant raises as strong and delayed raises as possibly weak, ie. "HMM LET ME SEE...... HM... OK I GUESS I RAISE LOL." [/ QUOTE ] i agree that people see instaraises as strong, that's why i want to instaraise this so i can fold to a 3bet more comfortably. but you think an instaraise will not reduce the chance that he'll 3-bet bluff by more than 1%? btw, what's your line in this hand? call, r/c, or r/f? |
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Re: weird donk
i just call because i expect to hear from 5x earlier and i realize he can be bluffing here but raising doesn't gain anything in that case
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Re: weird donk
I end up calling here for the reasons Miles mentioned. If the board wasnt double paired I'd raise.
When I raise I fold to a 3-bet without worrying about it. I use to call and win like never. People grossly overestimate how much even retards bet/3-bet as a bluff on the river. I mean you see it. But its closer to 0.5% than the 8-10% or whatever you need to call here. |
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Re: weird donk
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if i instaraise and he still 3bets, no, i don't think it's close. if i take my sweet time to raise and he 3bets, i start scratching my head. what do others think? [/ QUOTE ] i still think raise folding JJ on a 54422 board to someone who sucks at poker can't be a valid line here. If you do raise this river, it's because you can confidently call a 3bet. This guy can have a 4 here, he can have a slow played better hand, but the hands you are getting value from are A=x I just think there aren't enough bet/calling hands for the villain here. |
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