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Old 10-29-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 100nl 4betting amounts

thanks..i also asked CTS and Sixpeppers on cardrunners ...ill post their response if anyone is interested.


Hey,

With deeper stacks I'll usually make my 4-bets a little larger but not that much. With 100BB I either just straight shove or more often make it just over double their 3-bet size (13 to 28 or so). Then I can make the play with bluffs without committing myself and I'm putting them in a push/fold situation so I'm risking 28BB when they have to make a decision for 100 -- always a good thing.

gl
Cole


I recently just started making smaller 4bets as advised by CTS's video. At your level though I don't think you need to 4bet bluff too much, so I would make a standard 3x or 3x+1 or 2 BB's R with 100 BB stacks, and always call a shove once I 4bet, no matter WHAT. With 200 BB stacks I would prolly do the about the same. If you raise from 14 to 42, they are getting 28 to call with implied of about 160 behind you, if they are set mining they would need 280+ behind you, so you are still covering giving them implied odds with only 200 BB stacks. Of course your range should change when deep against an opponent, because most people aren't throwing 200 BBs in without KK AA. So you can actually 4bet bluff in some very rare spots, as well as 4bet and fold to a shove with QQ JJ, if you think they are restealing PF with the 3bet but won't mess around to a 4bet, which is very common. I think this about sums up my idea about the situation, remember you shouldn't be getting in very many spots like this, like 1 every 1k hands or so.

-sixpeppers
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