Ask me about Adult/ Running adult websites!

gordongecko · #1 06-05-2007, 05:08 AM

I have been involved in all kinds of niches on the internet, and I started out primarily in webhosting, then moved on to adult. I have been involved in almost every aspect of the industry except for production (though I have a ton of contacts that handle that). I started out pushing traffic to dating/cam sites, and a friend and I started a network of blogs that realy took off. We have a few tgps now, and I have branched off and realy just let him manage things now.With the exception of a paysite I am launching this week I am no longer involved in the day to day managment of things. I decided to take a smaller % and just have him manage it while I handle my other business ventures (real estate, gaming traffic, and other things).
Our network of free sites (tgps, blogs, etc) get about 500k unique hits a day total. We started out with pretty much nothing, and parlayed it into a nice, 5 server cluster full of revenue producing free sites.
So ask me any questions you may have outside of which sites I run. I will not disclose any of that (except maybe sites I run on my own) for personal reasons, so please dont ask that.

How much can you make in this business? The sky is the limit.

You just need to find the right connections, and be willing to learn. I put a ton of time into it at the begining because I simply had no cash to invest. Now that I have money to invest in it it is way easier for me to get a site producing $1k+ monthly.

So ask away I am all ears! [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

ahnuld · #2 06-05-2007, 07:45 AM

How much marketing is required, or is it all about writing a good tag, and then having good material?

How much stuff in the industry is the same product being sold at many different sites?

Morally did you have any problems with it?

Reef · #3 06-05-2007, 11:25 AM

still amazed that people still will pay for pr0n.
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how much of your income as a % was derived from people who bought memberships that deducted automatically from their bank account but never bothered to cancel it?

what day and time were the highest traffic hits?

how many girls did you feature per site? how much did they get paid?

Shanemex · #4 06-05-2007, 12:10 PM

So you make all of your money off of free sites? Do you get paid per page view by advertisers, or on a commission basis? Either way, roughly how much do you make per 1000 visitors?

fatass748 · #5 06-05-2007, 02:02 PM

IMO this is the toughest market to get into. It is by far the most competitive anyway. The sky is the limit though. I'm still making money off of ads I posted over a year ago.
Making and mangaing the sites isn't hard to do. You can easily set up 10 free gallery posts and have a script(purchased for 100-200ish) do all the work. The tough part is getting the traffic. Setting up trades with other sites, posting on every link dump you can find. It all comes down to how much work you will do. $0 profit is common but so is 1-2k.

Then there's the sites with exclusive content. The ones that do really well. They do the filming while the sites above do the advertising for them. The problem is they are all getting sued now. cohf.com which made ~3M a year has just been sued for 1 billion for prostitution and filming indecent content in Miami. Bangbros and the cumfiesta network are being targeted as well.

Congrats on your success

gordongecko · #6 06-05-2007, 08:09 PM

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So you make all of your money off of free sites? Do you get paid per page view by advertisers, or on a commission basis? Either way, roughly how much do you make per 1000 visitors?

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Basicaly a free site is where surfers go to find free porn. You tease them with galleries, and some of them end up buying (we get paid by commision on the ones who buy).

The market is not as tough as mostpeople think. Sure it gets saturated, but in the end it is a job and most of the fly by nite types are long gone before you know it. You just have to have patience.

If noone paid for porn, then no pros would make porn. Meaning there would be no porn for the free loaders.

lgas · #7 06-05-2007, 11:28 PM

What would be your advice for someone that wanted to get started in this business today? What's the most important thing that you know that someone starting out doesn't, that would have saved you time when you were first starting out?

gordongecko · #8 06-05-2007, 11:55 PM

hrm I would say invest in the right scripts/designers. It's worth it in the long run. That plus I would invest more in feeder traffic to send to trades. It's so much easier that way. I also woulda found a partner a bit sooner I guess, but I did okay otherwise. It's much easier though to have someone who knows more about the industry to kinda point you in the right direction. I have a few go to guys still that help me out.

BradleyT · #9 06-06-2007, 06:17 AM

I dabbled back in '99-'00 and many of the adult webmaster forums have some of the smartest webmasters and scripters out there. They're often using web technologies that later find their way into mainstream a few years later (popups, redirects, chromeless windows, etc).

Even 7-8 years ago most of the industry was run by scripts so I'd try and find some decent adult webmaster forums and poke around for a while and see which scripts get mentioned over and over.

gordongecko · #10 06-06-2007, 06:37 AM

the only problem with adult webmaster forums are adult webmasters [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] www.gfy.com is one of the biggest adult webmaster forums, and you can get a feel for the maturity level there after about 10 minutes. heh. Otherwise though they are priceless as far as info goes for starting up.